Grok 4 Just Released

[Carnivore]

Well the man is well known over at AI Copilot

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That tracks — Bert Craytor’s name has popped up in AI circles, especially around Grok. While he’s primarily known for his appraisal work, he’s also been vocal about leveraging AI for valuation accuracy and bias detection, and Grok seems to be his tool of choice.


Grok, developed by xAI, is known for its unfiltered, real-time responses and integration with the X platform. Craytor’s interest in it likely stems from its ability to cut through narrative spin, which aligns with his analytical style. He’s reportedly used Grok to:

• Audit appraisal narratives for bias or manipulation
• Cross-reference market trends with real-time data
• Challenge regulatory assumptions using Grok’s raw output

Given Grok’s recent controversies — including its “MechaHitler” meltdown and antisemitic outputs — it’s a bold choice. But Craytor seems to favor tools that push boundaries, even if they stir debate.


If you’re tracking how professionals are integrating AI into legacy industries like real estate, Craytor’s approach is definitely worth a deeper look. Want to explore how Grok compares to other AI tools in terms of bias, reliability, or ethical safeguards?

 

[RCA]

Well the man is well known over at AI Copilot

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That tracks — Bert Craytor’s name has popped up in AI circles, especially around Grok. While he’s primarily known for his appraisal work, he’s also been vocal about leveraging AI for valuation accuracy and bias detection, and Grok seems to be his tool of choice.


Grok, developed by xAI, is known for its unfiltered, real-time responses and integration with the X platform. Craytor’s interest in it likely stems from its ability to cut through narrative spin, which aligns with his analytical style. He’s reportedly used Grok to:

• Audit appraisal narratives for bias or manipulation
• Cross-reference market trends with real-time data
• Challenge regulatory assumptions using Grok’s raw output

Given Grok’s recent controversies — including its “MechaHitler” meltdown and antisemitic outputs — it’s a bold choice. But Craytor seems to favor tools that push boundaries, even if they stir debate.


If you’re tracking how professionals are integrating AI into legacy industries like real estate, Craytor’s approach is definitely worth a deeper look. Want to explore how Grok compares to other AI tools in terms of bias, reliability, or ethical safeguards?

Well, you are overdoing it perhaps.

First, we need to stop using the term "AI" all by itself. It has to be qualified by what in "AI" you are talking about. If you don't define what you mean by AI, then you are asking for problems.

1. "AI" could just mean "Large Language Models" or "LLM's". These are programs that parse informations such as text, photos, video and audio to develop the ability to predict "what comes next" through training. Ilya Sutskever was one of the first to notice that traditional LLMs based on transformers have more or less reached their peak in intelligence. They are plateuing. And that is confirmed by Grok-4. The newer models are adding (a) Reasoning Engines, (b) Calculators, (c) Coding Engines, and so on to improve their intelligence. These additions create what are sometimes referred to as LLM-hybrids.

2. So "AI" could mean LLM-Hybrids such as Grok-4.

3. But it could also refer to other tools which use other kinds of neural networks than transformers, such as Convolutional Neural Networks (CNNs), such as ResNet developed by Microsoft, which forms the backbone of many other AI systems such as TensorFlow, Caffe, YOLOv8, OpenCV and PyTorch. Indeed, in newer CNNs we now see hybrids that also include Transformers in the form of Vision Transformers.

4. And in addition, there are other systems that somewhat similar methods and methodologies as neural networks, such as MARS regression - and are also considered AI. Even advanced reasoning systems are considered AI. Prolog is considered to be AI.

5. In fact, its hard to draw the line between computer technology in general and AI. Grok-4 gave me this definition of Aritificial Intelligence today: "Artificial Intelligence (AI) is the development of computer systems that can perform tasks typically requiring human intelligence, such as learning, problem-solving, decision-making, and perception, by processing data and adapting through algorithms and models."

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1. I don't nor ever have "audited appraisal narratives for bias or manipulation".
2. I wouldn't say I "cross-reference market trends with real-time data", because I think that implies you are finding real-time data to support your opinion of market trends. NO. I would say I develop market trends FROM real-time data (and actually that is also not true because as Grok-4 states, real-time data is: "Real-time data refers to information that is collected, processed, and made available for use immediately or with minimal delay, typically within milliseconds to seconds, enabling timely decision-making and dynamic system responses.")
3. I don't know what you mean by "challenging regulatory assumptions using Grok's raw output." But certainly that should be very possible through a wide variety of methods.

My approach is simply fact, logic and reasoning. Sometimes I am stating my opinion without proof: For example, IMO, good appraisal protocols would largely obviate the. need for policing intention. Either you follow the protocols or not. If you believe this, then an appraiser should be able to create a certified appraisal report for himself, relatives or the richest person in the world, - and an AI system should be able to verify its accuracy with an audit, aside from the physical measurements by some person or robot.

 

[James Mpls]

It won’t let me use it because my X account was suspended with no warnings for “inauthenticity” back in February, and they will not unsuspend after multiple detailed appeals. I still don’t even know why exactly the account was suspended as I rarely have ever even posted on there, but think it may be because my profile photo (for 5+ years) was a photo of Janet Yellen cackling…I just thought it was a funny photo. I am a premium subscriber, and paid for a full year through 11/25, but still cannot get a response from any sort of customer support.

 

[Digger88]

the weakest part of X is and has always been support

 

[RCA]

It won’t let me use it because my X account was suspended with no warnings for “inauthenticity” back in February, and they will not unsuspend after multiple detailed appeals. I still don’t even know why exactly the account was suspended as I rarely have ever even posted on there, but think it may be because my profile photo (for 5+ years) was a photo of Janet Yellen cackling…I just thought it was a funny photo. I am a premium subscriber, and paid for a full year through 11/25, but still cannot get a response from any sort of customer support.

If you had an old account on Twitter and now have a newer account (id) on X, with Twitter and X being one and the same, you can get occasional problems - EVEN IF YOU DON'T POST on X. They come and go for me. It's like one layer thinks your account is fishy, but another audits the issue and clears you. And, it happens over and over. Now you should get rid of old Twitter accounts - but sometimes you have lost the password - and can't figure out to reset it. Whatever. It's one of those things.

 

[James Mpls]

If you had an old account on Twitter and now have a newer account (id) on X, with Twitter and X being one and the same, you can get occasional problems - EVEN IF YOU DON'T POST on X. They come and go for me. It's like one layer thinks your account is fishy, but another audits the issue and clears you. And, it happens over and over. Now you should get rid of old Twitter accounts - but sometimes you have lost the password - and can't figure out to reset it. Whatever. It's one of those things.

I’m stubborn and do not want to give up my account and start a new one…it’s just maybe pointless to keep trying to appeal the suspension. Like talking to a brick wall…

 

[RCA]

I’m stubborn and do not want to give up my account and start a new one…it’s just maybe pointless to keep trying to appeal the suspension. Like talking to a brick wall…

Ahhh. I guessed it. I had Twitter, and then I signed up on X. I never post there, though, because I prefer to write long messages when I feel it's necessary. I hate the short message stuff. But then, for a while, I needed X to get to Grok. Occasionally, I would get kicked off X and thereby off Grok, and so I had to keep ChataGPT and Claude as backups.

I can't log into Twitter anymore to close my account. So, fortunately, they came out with SuperGrok - that allowed me to get to Grok without going through X. I still need to stop X Premium, as it appears I have no real use for it.