Hey dummy climate fanatics, it ain't co melting antarctica

[TerryRohrer]

The vast majority of domestic and worldwide verified data from accredited scientists and climatologists, and onsite data gatherers, such as oceanographers, supports the effects of man-made climate change vs the National Enquirer conspiracy theory mindset, which believes that somehow biased scientists invented climate change to get grants. The silliness of that is incredible, since big energy and big oil far outspend in their own bias to suppress even their own studies showing the effects of man-made climate change. Nations around the world are racing for clean energy and to reduce reliance on fossil fuels, even as they partially rely on it until better systems, such as fusion, can power on a larger scale.

The big energy companies invest in it too. The fact that these folks elected a climate change denier will be the shame of America for centuries and make us a world laughing stock. (but its not funny when the storm damage and rising tides cause trillions of $ in destruction, and we fall behind other nations in alt energy investment )

You didn't answer this "What is the split in the money spent on climate change analysis over the past 30 years between those who document, support, and champion the "effects of man-made climate change" vs. those who dispute its veracity?" The rest of your diatribe is simply a bunch more made-up opinions as fact garbage with no more credibility than all of the talking points you keep repeating as if they were credible. Not that I think it is possible that you could objectively develop and share your own opinion.

 

[IlliniApp]

Never heard of that "publication." Anyone can make up a non peer reviewed important name sounding X and put it on the internet.

The article is short on proof, written by Aisan. What are their credentials? Even if there are volcanoes under the ice, there is ALSO decades of scientific proven documented and recorded evidence that the effects of human activity is heating up ocean temperatures and air temperatures and melting polar ice caps ( even if it still snows and gets cold as climate change is not just about weather - though hott4er temps and severe weather events are part of it)

 

[IlliniApp]

The vast majority of peer-reviewed, fact-based, and documented data worldwide and domestically support the effects of man-made climate change. From top scientists, climatologists, and oceanographers affiliated with NASA, universities, and climate stations, who have been collecting samples daily for decades. As opposed to some low-rent internet article. Even the big energy companies admit man made climate change is an issue and they are developing alt energy along with traditional sources.

That "publication" he cited is a nothing burger - only exists on the net - can't even find its existence outside of that.

You still never say why a warming climate is bad for human flourishing. It unquestionably is creating a greener planet. And yet you have complained about non-existent food shortages over the years. We actually have a glut of food globally and depressed commodity prices.

 

[glenn walker]

The New Green Deal was a scam to use tax dollars on imaginary things that enriched a lot of billionaires but did nothing for average people.

Thank god sanity is returning and so is the ommon sense. The climate scare was created and sold like a religion and the liberal arts types took it hook line and sinker.

Now the Democrats and thier weird climate goblin Greta Thunberg are just being laughed at while AOC and Schumer just two years ago said we only had 12 years to save humanity.

 

[Tom D]

The more co we have, the more greener the earth gets. The more greener the earth gets, the more oxygen we have to breath. If only plants could talk. All this heat and years have gone by. A polar vortex for 1 year, and we all is mostly gone. Thank God for global warming, or we would all be frozen dead by now. And the sun & earth itself have nothing to do with climates, only us little specks on it can change weather. Ok, I can go with that to help the mentally disturbed.

Do you all realize, that vice president Al Gore, the father of heat when he made his famous movie was a partner with the arabs, in a newly formed carbon exchange business. Follow the money and his big house that had a lot of lights always on.

 

[J Grant]

The more co we have, the more greener the earth gets. The more greener the earth gets, the more oxygen we have to breath. If only plants could talk. All this heat and years have gone by. A polar vortex for 1 year, and we all is mostly gone. Thank God for global warming, or we would all be frozen dead by now. And the sun & earth itself have nothing to do with climates, only us little specks on it can change weather. Ok, I can go with that to help the mentally disturbed.

Do you all realize, that vice president Al Gore, the father of heat when he made his famous movie was a partner with the arabs, in a newly formed carbon exchange business. Follow the money and his big house that had a lot of lights always on.

Follow the money - the majority of the money trail is for big oil to suppress climate change data so they can continue to sell their product. Look up Exon on that - many articles from many sources and Exon acknowledges their own part in suppressing data in their own studies.

 

[J Grant]

Budget office projects Biden green energy plan will cost much more than initial estimate

"The costs of energy-related tax provisions are much higher than ... originally projected," said Congressional Budget Office director Philip Swagel.

www.cnbc.com

Budget office projects Biden green energy plan will cost much more than initial estimate​

WASHINGTON — The U.S. budget deficit will grow by an estimated $1 trillion over the next 10 years, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projected in a new report Wednesday.

Part of that growth will be driven by unexpectedly high costs related to President Joe Biden’s signature policy goal: Reorienting the U.S. economy towards greener energy, the CBO found."

" The Congressional Budget Office estimates the federal deficit will grow by $1 trillion over the next 10 years.
Part of that growth will be driven by unexpectedly high costs related to President Joe Biden’s signature policy goal: Reorienting the U.S. economy to greener energy.
EV tax credit costs and falling gas tax revenues will add $224 billion to the deficit over 10 years, CBO projects."

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Besides the 'cost' there is the reality that China was and probably still building coal electric plants that aren't 'clean' plants, and 'our' world wide air isn't getting better.




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Renewable energy investment​

China is the world leader in global renewable energy investment, peaking at over $290 billion in 2024. This is nearly three times more than the United States, which saw around $97 billion in investment last year. This is according to data from the REN21 Global Status Report 2025.

Investment in the European Union (EU) and the United Kingdom surged in 2023 but dropped significantly in 2024, falling from $142 billion to $114 billion. Growth in the rest of Asia (excluding China), Africa and the Middle East meanwhile continued to accelerate.

According to REN21, renewable energy investment amounted to $728 billion in 2024, with much of the overall investment going to solar power and electric vehicles. While this may sound like a high figure, analysts state that the world was at just 48 percent of the annual investment level required through 2030, meaning we are off track to reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

My comment : China is builidng temporary or back up use coal plants while it invests massive amounts of $ in clean/alt energy.

 

[J Grant]

Well, you are a master of regurgitating the talking points. Here you are citing 25 year old climate bible verses when the global temperature last year was actually lower than previous, and the ices sheets of Antarctica have grown during the past 5 years. Nothing honest about cherry picking your opinions from others' work and claiming they are "facts."

fact
/fak(t)/

noun

1. a thing that is known or proved to be true.

NASA -Antarctica has gained ice in recent years, despite increasing average global temperatures and climate change, a new study finds.


Using data from NASA satellites, researchers from Tongji University in Shanghai tracked changes in Antarctica's ice sheet over more than two decades. The overall trend is one of substantial ice loss on the continent, but from 2021 to 2023, Antarctica gained some of that lost ice back.

However, this isn't a sign that global warming and climate change have miraculously reversed. Picture a long ski slope with a small jump at the end. That's what a line through the Antarctic ice sheet data looks like when plotted on a graph. While there have been some recent ice gains, they don't even begin to make up for almost 20 years of losses.

My comment - all that is needed is a simple internet search to put the small gain of ice sheets into perspective.

 

[TerryRohrer]

Follow the money - the majority of the money trail is for big oil to suppress climate change data so they can continue to sell their product. Look up Exon on that - many articles from many sources and Exon acknowledges their own part in suppressing data in their own studies.

You can't get more myopic and dishonest than this! Who with a mind thinks that Exxon has spent more money refuting climate change religion than all the governments and woke corporations on the dole throughout the world?

 

[TerryRohrer]

from 2021 to 2023, Antarctica gained some of that lost ice back.

My comment - all that is needed is a simple internet search to put the small gain of ice sheets into perspective.

Confirmed exactly the fact I stated. You are the spin meister.