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Housing Bubble Bursting?

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It is so ironic for Freddie and Fannie who are in trouble themselves to rescue others who are in trouble. Why they don't rescue themselves first?
Great idea. You can combine their operations, boost net capital, layoff half the staff increasing efficiency and sell new stock to raise more capital.
 
Another rough day for financial stocks


FNM $28.17 down –25.04%

Freddie $26.74 down –28.69%

Etrade $3.03 down –9.18%

IMB $8.39 down –9.30%

CFC $10.26 down –2.74%

WAMU $17.90 down -2.70%
 
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What does it mean for the mortgage market?

Both Freddie and Fannie lost about one third of their share price today after Freddie reported a $2 Billion loss and its net worth shrank by $8 billion.

These are the agencies that will buy mortgages from the likes of IndyMac and Countrywide. With their (Fannie & Freddie) lending capital shrinking so much, their ability to buy mortgages in the secondary market has shrunk. It means lenders who depend on the GSEs to provide their liquidity are in peril.

Something is going to have to give real soon now in the bank system. Bad paper is accumulating at a rapid pace shrinking capital and the ability to continue operations.

"Countrywide's survival strategy has depended on access to the secondary markets through GSE purchase and re-securitization. That strategy is less viable in an atmosphere where the GSEs themselves are capital constrained and may need to shrink," Fox-Pitt, Kelton analyst Howard Shapiro wrote on Tuesday.
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The FED has lost control - rate cuts too little, too late

Irwin Kellner: The U.S. economy is freezing up

PORT WASHINGTON, N.Y. (MarketWatch) -- Whether the Federal Reserve realizes it or not, the United States economy is reeling from a one-two punch of plunging real estate values and a full-blown credit crunch that might not be alleviated with additional rate cuts.

While the Fed might have had a role in creating what has come to be known as the subprime mess, because of the way it has evolved, the Fed's ability to deal with it is rather limited. There are a number of reasons for this.

First and foremost is the fact that, on the real estate side, the damage has already been done.

Because short-term interest rates today are well above the 45-year lows plumbed from the middle of 2003 through mid-2004, those mortgages with adjustable rates have -- or will -- reset to much higher rates even if the Fed decides to lower rates by a quarter of a point or even more.

As a consequence, there will likely be more delinquencies and foreclosures, which, besides causing pain for those homeowners, will result in more homes on the market, thereby depressing their prices.

Another reason why the Fed alone will not be able to ameliorate this crisis is that its main jurisdiction is over the banks -- and the problem is now centered in the financial markets. This is because the banks no longer have these loans on their books, having turned them into securities and sold them to others.

In turn, these mortgage-backed securities were used as collateral for the issuance of debt, whose value, as you know, is far lower than originally thought.

This has caused massive write downs by holders of these securities, cutting into their profits -- but, more important, depleting confidence in the financial system. And this reduction in confidence is spreading beyond the financial markets and residential real estate to commercial real estate as well.

To the extent the banks are involved (by holding on to some of these securities), their capital is being reduced and thus their ability to make new loans.

Not surprisingly, the combination of lower real estate values and reduced availability of funding is beginning to reduce business spending on new plants and equipment. This is overwhelming the positive effect that the lower-valued dollar is having on our exports.

So while the Fed is preoccupied with communications and forecasting, the financial markets remain frozen while the economy is melting down.
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Mark:

Yes the parentheses represents what I lost on paper today, the market is down 218.35, I am under professional management but I'm beginning to wonder, I can pretty much tell without going to my brokerage site by multiplying the Dow by 100, up or down it comes pretty close.
The more I think about it I shouldn't have said anything. many people are hurting and no one needs to here about one dudes lucky day. The reason I mentioned it was because the regular posters here influenced me to go that way and I wanted to give them credit. Sold my positions today at the wrong time and was down $290 today. That I don't feel bad about posting!!
 
Freddie Mac 3Q Loss Balloons, May Need Capital
Freddie Mac (FRE)'s third-quarter net loss sharply widened amid soaring credit losses, and the mortgage financier warned it needs more capital and might have to slash its dividend, amid other possible actions.

The news sent shares sharply lower in premarket trading, falling to $33 from Monday's close of $37.50.

Freddie Mac said its estimated regulatory core capital is almost below the regulatory minimum of 30%. In order to keep it from falling below that, it has engaged Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) and Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH) to help consider "very near-term capital raising alternatives."

Freddie Mac is also "seriously considering" reducing its fourth-quarter dividend by 50%. If those measures are not sufficient, then the company "may consider additional measures in the future such as limiting growth or reducing the size" its retained portfolio.
 
Who's' going to bail out Freddie???May the could refi with the high flying Yen.......
 
Mark:
The more I think about it I shouldn't have said anything. many people are hurting and no one needs to here about one dudes lucky day.
No problem, I got back 9 today of the 19 I lost on paper yesterday, how did you do shorting? The reason I ask is I'm thinking of shorting some issues.
 
Mark:
No problem, I got back 9 today of the 19 I lost on paper yesterday, how did you do shorting? The reason I ask is I'm thinking of shorting some issues.
Down $290 today. I sold all positions. I buy on up days. i should have sold at around 11:30 market was down 88 and I was up about $500. Oh well! I'm ahead nicely since I started 3 weeks ago. i jump in and out all the time. I buy on up days and sell on down. The cute part is my mom is 68 yrs old and i taught her how to buy and sell. It costs me $7 a trade on my puter and $40 if I call. She is absolutely hooked!!! She gets up and sets up the "streaming quotes" screen and watches the changes in real time. at first she called everytime they moved 10 cents. Had to put a stop to that!!! She say's "This is better than bingo"!! Kinda cute! Anyway I think after Thanksgiving I'm just going to buy and hold thru the holidays hoping for bad sales #'s. Give it a shot. I like SDS which shorts the S&P. It moves up or down at twice the rate of the index so be careful!
 
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