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It seems to me that the most pressing (appraisal) concern at the moment is to minimize the appraiser's exposure to claims of misleading to intended users. TO ME, this means not using the 1004 format itself for these assignments.

1 - Because they visually resemble the 1004 and imply to some readers that they're the same thing; and
2 - Because dealing with the additional - and critical - disclosures in an addendum will amount to allegations that the info was buried in fine print as a means of obscuring it.

Now I can understand the point that the various *other* data systems at the lenders and the GSEs that use the XML formatting may necessitate the data fields themselves, but I think the formsware "shell" that appraisers load that data onto can be visually tweaked to have their own distinctive look, and have their own specific-to-purpose labeling, disclosures and hardwired verbiage from beginning to end.

If we know there is a large percentage of appraisers who only appraise to the form then it becomes even more critical that the formatting and structure of that form be cleaned up to better serve the legitimate interests of both the intended users AND the appraisers. If Fannie wants an 1004MC-type analysis or some new analysis in these appraisals then this is their opportunity to roll that analysis into the basic form itself and dispense with treating it as an addendum. If Fannie wants appraisers to analyze exposure time this is their opportunity to add such a section into the form itself and refrain from relying on appraisers to stick it "somewhere" in the report for reviewers to hunt for. Etc; etc.


That’s presuming our software providers provide a Fannie Mae form. Many of these forms are supposedly done on line via web based forms and everyone is claiming to have their own proprietary very special better than anyone else’s hybrid. USPAP mandates Appraisers are to have access at all times to the report and work-file as well as protection of their signature.
 
USPAP mandates Appraisers are to have access at all times to the report ....
That is factually incorrect. :shrug:

How many times do we have access to the report once we deliver it to the client?
What the USPAP mandates is that we retain a true copy of the reports in a workfile that we delivered to the client . That's factually correct.

An argument against the hybrids being cloud based and, therefore, not having the ability to create and retain a true copy of the report delivered to the client can be a valid USPAP argument. If I sign a report on a cloud-based system and do not have the ability to have a copy of that report as I signed it, then I couldn't use that system and be in compliance with my Record Keeping Rule requirements.
But if I can create and retain a true copy, then I'm in compliance with the USPAP. Period.

Retention of control of the signature is also a USPAP requirement. Same as the above; if I have to surrender that control, then I cannot complete the assignment. If I retain that control, then there is no USPAP conflict.

If we are going to use USPAP arguments against hybrids, let's at least agree to use factual, correct arguments.
 
If we are going to use USPAP arguments against hybrids, let's at least agree to use factual, correct arguments.
Good luck with that Dennis! As you are undoubtedly already aware, there are certain posters here on the AF that don't care about facts and will deny or ignore any facts that do not support their narrative.....despite your hopes and wishes, that will never change.
 
All these third party inspectors will need a background check. How much is clearly box charging?
 
That is factually incorrect.
What the USPAP mandates is that we retain a true copy of the reports in a workfile that we delivered to the client . That's factually incorrect.

Mea Culpa. I did a poor job of conveying what I meant to say in that I WAS referring to the cloud based reports. Which you correctly covered. Years ago I did one for just the heck of it .. first and last as I could not print the report from my end
 
Note that AMC’s and lenders will get burned based on truth in lending disclosures from several legal authorities. It could be IRS law, antitrust law, individual state law, etc.

Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

Watch your invoices closely. The market is cooling in many areas.

The AMC will be the one that takes the blame.
 
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Note that AMC’s and lenders will get burned based on truth in lending disclosures from several legal authorities. It could be IRS law, antitrust law, individual state law, etc.

Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.

Watch your invoices closely. The market is cooling in many areas.

The AMC will be the one that takes the blame.
Sure they will Eli...it has only been a decade or so since the rise of the AMC model and exactly zero AMC's and lenders have been burned over this issue and the cfpb specifically chose not to require that the appraiser fee to be segregated from the AMC fee...thus any thought that anyone is going to get burned over this issue is fantasy land unless Reguation Z is changed to require segregation of those fees on the TIL. In any case, the AMC has no responsibility or liability for a lender's failure to properly disclose fees on the TIL.
 
I've never been a volume kinda guy. I hate the idea of having to do possibly 4 or more desktop appraisals to equate to the same income I'd get from doing just one standard appraisal. I suppose doing 5 desktop orders a week would make a nice supplement to an annual appraiser income, but it sickens me to imagine the shortcut appraisals as a primary source of my appraisal income (from what I am aware, the appraiser fees range from as low as $50 up to $125). Maybe this is the way the government and their big bank lobbyists are taking the industry, but I really hope they don't succeed in making fast cheap hybrid appraisals into the new norm.
 
Hybrids are evil

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