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I'm Conflicted - Should I Do These Reports?

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Does that make you think of any of the MLS photos that make a property seem different than you find out by word of mouth from the very agents involved or through other sources like your own personal observation?

An MLS photo can make a property look better or worse, though if one looks carefully one can at least see if an upgrade they describe exists or not. Driving by the property/verifying, knowing the condo or area etc helps fill in the gaps. However we are not appraising the comps , we are appraising the subject, therefore any gaps of info around a comp are not critical to the report as it would be with the subject .
 
all of which has absolutely nothing to do with the questions i asked you, and you quoted, so i will ask them again.

how much are you bonded for as an appraiser in TN?

what insurance, other than E&O which will do nothing, do you carry that will protect you while performing inspections?

Ok, all I carry is E&O. My references were made thinking who would be doing these inspections and what type of license they have. In TN, they will be required to have a business license of some kind. Knowing FNMA, they will be required to carry some type of insurance. Like if I measure a property wrong, or misreport something based on my inspection like a serious issue that was readily observable, my E&O will cover it most likely. If it is a general building contractor or real estate agent doing these inspections, the public should be protected for negligence or fraud from somebody. A building contractor is bonded. I don’t know what kind of insurance a broker carries,
 
An MLS photo can make a property look better or worse, though if one looks carefully one can at least see if an upgrade they describe exists or not. Driving by the property/verifying, knowing the condo or area etc helps fill in the gaps. However we are not appraising the comps , we are appraising the subject, therefore any gaps of info around a comp are not critical to the report as it would be with the subject .

I can’t totally agree there but TN is not FL in more ways than one.
 
Ok, all I carry is E&O. My references were made thinking who would be doing these inspections and what type of license they have. In TN, they will be required to have a business license of some kind. Knowing FNMA, they will be required to carry some type of insurance. Like if I measure a property wrong, or misreport something based on my inspection like a serious issue that was readily observable, my E&O will cover it most likely. If it is a general building contractor or real estate agent doing these inspections, the public should be protected for negligence or fraud from somebody. A building contractor is bonded. I don’t know what kind of insurance a broker carries,

I don't know if any of this is true. It might be anyone the client feels is qualified or "appropriately trained"...much as the QC reviewers only have to be "appropriately trained" to qualify. I'd be surprised if the inspectors need a license of any kind, and doubt they personally will have any liability. Of course we won't know till the program rolls out.

Whether states will get involved, or a challenge to it will result if a borrower sues or a buy back occurs I can't say. Based on history of big box AMC and appraisals where they shop for cheap and fast predict them paying inspectors at low rates/salary and pushing for volume. Which will imo adversely influence quality of inspection or who will end up doing them. Why would they would they pay well for an inspection, or allow them ample time to do them, when the point of this supposedly is to save the consumer money and for some unknown reason, saving a day becomes SO important in a 30 year loan?
 
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I don't know if any of this is true. It might be anyone the client feels is qualified or "appropriately trained"...much as the QC reviewers only have to be "appropriately trained" to qualify. I'd be surprised if the inspectors need a license of any kind, and doubt they personally will have any liability. Surely the client will try to escape taking liability for the inspector as well.

In TN, they will have to operate under some type of license in order to operate legally if they are a resident of TN. They will have to have a license of some kind period, resident or not.
 
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Mr Appraiser how many residential lending appraisals have you performed over the years??? Thousands???
And, how many of those appraisals have you accepted client provided information that could not be verified beyond the client, yet had the potential to be a major factor impacting the market value of a property?
Oh, just a few dozen here for this client?
And why did you not attempt to get the assignment conditions extended to cover the interior inspections you have performed for all those thousands of other appraisals you have performed for other clients?
I'll take over (as the appraiser) answering the Prosecutor's moronic questions from here, Marion.


And Mr Appraiser, why did you not attempt to get the assignment conditions extended to cover the interior inspections you have performed for all those thousands of other appraisals you have performed for other clients?

Because, Mr Prosecutor, the order was for a Desktop appraisal which included Extraordinary Assumptions about the interior, whereas information provided by the client was consistent with MLS, Realist, County records and photos of the exterior; therefore it was reasonable to believe that the interior condition by the client's sources was correct, but it may not be a true reflection of the interior condition; This is an acceptable SOW with the use of Extraordinary Assumptions.

The report was based upon the Extraordinary Assumption which clearly and conspicuously stated that their use these Extraordinary Assumptions might have affect the opinions and conclusion if found to be false, thus it is not misleading. USPAP defines “Extraordinary Assumption” as “an assumption, directly related to a specific assignment, as of the effective date of the assignment results, which if found to be false, could alter the appraiser’s opinion or conclusions.” Extraordinary Assumption of the interior replaces the need for verification of fact. The interior condition, as of the effective date, was based upon the extraordinary assumption, whereas if the interior conditions were found to be false, it could alter the opinions or conclusions in that appraisal. This is true with full interior appraisals, as well. Full appraisals include general assumptions such as the interiors of the comparable sales, as the appraiser did not inspect the comp interiors.

And Mr. Prosecutor, I might add that it is important to understand that when an extraordinary/special assumption proves to be contrary to the truth, it does not mean the appraiser was “wrong.” The appraiser must ascertain that the use of the extraordinary/special assumption is appropriate given the client’s intended use of the assignment results, which was abundantly clear and conspicuously stated in this report.

A value opinion is always developed within the context of the assignment as defined by the scope of work and other assignment parameters such as the date of value and the type of value, as well as stated hypothetical conditions and extraordinary/special assumptions. If an extraordinary/special assumption made in an appraisal subsequently turns out to be false, the appraiser is not wrong, nor is the appraiser liable for any impact the extraordinary assumptions may have made if found to be false.

Mr Prosecutor??? Are you ok??? You're sweating and looking very pale :censored:



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Ok, all I carry is E&O. My references were made thinking who would be doing these inspections and what type of license they have. In TN, they will be required to have a business license of some kind. Knowing FNMA, they will be required to carry some type of insurance. Like if I measure a property wrong, or misreport something based on my inspection like a serious issue that was readily observable, my E&O will cover it most likely. If it is a general building contractor or real estate agent doing these inspections, the public should be protected for negligence or fraud from somebody. A building contractor is bonded. I don’t know what kind of insurance a broker carries,


but that's not what you posted, like usual:

The state is not going to like an inspector not being licensed to perform professional services at all. The public will want them bonded or insured too.

so now you somehow magically not only know what the state of TN will want but also what the public will want? i highly doubt that.

if you think an inspector will be required to be bonded and carry liability insurance why would it be any different for an appraiser? the answer is it won't be and you are making wrong assumptions again. having an appraisal license dos not somehow make your inspections safer than anyone else's, and you admittedly don't carry the type of insurance you think the public will demand. your E&O insurance will not cover anything that goes wrong on an inspection. just like your crazy idea about charging more taxes and thinking it will somehow not affect appraisers your erroneous thoughts on bonds and insurance, if it would ever come to fruition, would also include appraisers.
 
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