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Increase in insurance

And you have said you went commercial properties because you got more return on investment. Are you still of the same opinion.

Insurance is all math based on loses for the year and how much does the carrier has to charge to make a profit for the next year. Not an easy business predicting if you don't have a good actuary to predict the coming year losses.
 
And you have said you went commercial properties because you got more return on investment. Are you still of the same opinion.
Before Covid, yes but now commercials are bad investments as business need less brick and mortar stores.
Insurance is all math based on loses for the year and how much does the carrier has to charge to make a profit for the next year. Not an easy business predicting if you don't have a good actuary to predict the coming year losses.
My prime location property paying 87% increase doesn't make sense. Or I must had a great low insurance rates in the past from Hartford.
 
Just like r.e. value, you insurance rate is based on how much your neighbors have used theirs Maybe the area has gotten worse off and owners are having more accidental fires or roof leaks.

Building costs skyrocketed in the last 5 years, that don't help keeping the costs down.
 
Just like r.e. value, you insurance rate is based on how much your neighbors have used theirs Maybe the area has gotten worse off and owners are having more accidental fires or roof leaks.

Building costs skyrocketed in the last 5 years, that don't help keeping the costs down.
A restaurant down the block had a major fire early this year. It was a competitor to my tenant.
I noticed contracts have insurance contingency like a financing contingency in that if buyer can't get insurance, they can back out of the purchase.
 
In CA we have deadly earthquake once every 100 years and deadly wildfires which don't really affect urban areas.
I can live with that.
One per 100 years? How about 1 every 9 years?
7.4Nov. 8, 1980W. of Eureka*Injured 6; $2 million in damage
7.3July 21, 1952Kern County12 killed; 3 magnitude >6 aftershocks in 5 days
7.3June 28, 1992LandersOne killed; 400 injured; $9.1 million in damage
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7.2April 25, 1992Cape Mendocino356 injuries; $48.3 million in damage
7.1Oct. 16, 1999LudlowMinimal damage due to remote location
7.1July 5, 2019Ridgecrest/TronaPreceded by M6.4 quake; no fatalities
7.0May 18, 1940El Centro9 killed; $6 million in damage
6.9Oct. 17, 1989Bay Area63 killed; 3,753 hurt; up to $10 billion in damage
6.7Jan. 17, 1994Northridge57 killed; 9,000 hurt, up to $40 billion in damage
6.6Feb. 9, 1971San Fernando65 killed; 2,000 injured; $505 million in damage
6.4March 10, 1933SE of Long Beach115 killed; led to new building codes for schools
 
One per 100 years? How about 1 every 9 years?
7.4Nov. 8, 1980W. of Eureka*Injured 6; $2 million in damage
7.3July 21, 1952Kern County12 killed; 3 magnitude >6 aftershocks in 5 days
7.3June 28, 1992LandersOne killed; 400 injured; $9.1 million in damage
J
7.2April 25, 1992Cape Mendocino356 injuries; $48.3 million in damage
7.1Oct. 16, 1999LudlowMinimal damage due to remote location
7.1July 5, 2019Ridgecrest/TronaPreceded by M6.4 quake; no fatalities
7.0May 18, 1940El Centro9 killed; $6 million in damage
6.9Oct. 17, 1989Bay Area63 killed; 3,753 hurt; up to $10 billion in damage
6.7Jan. 17, 1994Northridge57 killed; 9,000 hurt, up to $40 billion in damage
6.6Feb. 9, 1971San Fernando65 killed; 2,000 injured; $505 million in damage
6.4March 10, 1933SE of Long Beach115 killed; led to new building codes for schools
Deadly earthquake would be at least 7.5
Major earthquakes occur but thousands don't die.
 
Major earthquakes occur but thousands don't die.
depends upon the circumstances and LA, for instance, sits in a basin of soft sediments that will go into liquefaction - ditto the Marina district in SF. If it hits like 1906 - today? Thousands will die. And huge numbers of homes will be totaled. cliffs will collapse, beaches disappear.

1976, Tangshan, China: A magnitude 7.8 earthquake killed between 250,000 and 800,000 people, but some estimates say the death toll could be as high as 655,000
2010, Haiti: The death toll from this earthquake varies from just over 100,000 to over 300,000
2003, Bam, Iran: A magnitude 6.5 earthquake killed more than 40,000 people
2008, Sichuan Province, China: 87,652 people died
2005, Pakistan: 76,213 people died
2023, Turkey/Syria: 51,880 people died

1999, Izmit, Turkey: A magnitude 7.6 earthquake killed about 18,000 people
 
Thank goodness no earthquakes greater than 7.5 has occurred in my lifetime.
Many buildings here have been retrofitted and new construction built to withstand strong earthquakes.
CA will survive earthquakes under 7.0.
 
I just opened the mail and got a notice that my E&O was increasing in excess of 25-30%%. I called to find out why. The first explanation was they reviewed my policy, and the increase was covering all acts going back to 2000. I told them that is absurd. NYS has a mandatory 7 year record keeping policy and I cannot get sued for anything that happens before that point. I told him I wanted to speak with a supervisor. After a long wait he came back and said he was mistaken. It was just an increase in the policy. I asked if everyone was getting an increase and he said he had no idea. I told him I would be looking for a new E&O provider. Sorry. I just read the op. I did not read it all the way through. My post has nothing to do with this.
 
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Allstate has received approval to raise its California homeowners insurance premiums by an average of 34% starting in November — the largest rate increase this year amid the state’s insurance crisis.

The rate increase approved earlier this month by state regulators affects more than 350,000 policyholders statewide and exceeds a 30% increase sought in June by State Farm, the state’s largest homeowners’ insurer. That request is still under review.

Thousands of California homeowners are set to lose fire coverage on their properties as the Liberty Mutual Fire Insurance Company continues non-renewing policies for those in at-risk areas of the state.

The insurer, one of Liberty Mutual's California subsidiaries, is in the process of refusing renewal for 17,000 homeowners in the state holding "dwelling fire insurance" policies with the company. The non-renewals, according to filings with the California Department of Insurance, started in September 2023 and will last through November.

In his 1998 book, Ecology of Fear, Mike Davis, the late California muckraker and self-proclaimed Marxist environmentalist, made the case for “letting Malibu burn.” He pointed out that the city of Los Angeles devoted more resources to dealing with the wildfires that rage in the wealthy enclave of Malibu than to the ones that break out in downtown tenements. And yet, Malibu’s very design ensures the return of fire. “The Malibu nouveaux riches built higher and higher in the mountain chamise with scant regard for the inevitable fiery consequences,” he writes. Why not return to the wisdom of native Californians, who knew that small, controlled fires were necessary for preventing bigger ones?
 
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