July 2008 ASC Q&a- Wink Wink Comp Comp

[Blueprint]

Can I have his phone number?

You have to earn that privilege.

 

[SANDY]

Sandy .... those at the "top of your profession" continually tell you, and many others here, to simply say NO. We are trying to do something about it. We are trying to eductate the "lowly trainees" .... the only problem is they cant get the wax out of their ears to hear.
I dont have these problems because I say NO ....

Can you hear me now?????

If you call- telling us lowly trainees to just say no - as doing something about it, then there should be no wonder on our part how or why we have come to this point in the profession. Yeah yeah just say no- and the problem is solved! Do I get two more wishes from the genie that came out of that bottle you rubbed?

 

[Carnivore]

Sandy,

The guys here have gave you numerous oppurtunities to save face. You have not taken those chances, so I can only conclude that your just a whiner.

Just in case you missed it. The TAF/ASB crowd are not regulators in the purest sense. They are closer to being instruction manual writers. They like you can only whine about problems your whining about.

You want them to ban the very act that is the reason they write policy and procedure manauls for distribution to state appraisal boards. If they do what you want then there is no point for them to exist.

The state boards are the answer to your whining. I repeat. The state boards are the answer to your whining. If your state baord will not enforce the existing state law governing appraisers then you must contact your State legislature Representative and tell that person your concerns. Good luck.

 

[SANDY]

Sandy,

The guys here have gave you numerous oppurtunities to save face. You have not taken those chances, so I can only conclude that your just a whiner.

Just in case you missed it. The TAF/ASB crowd are not regulators in the purest sense. They are closer to being instruction manual writers. They like you can only whine about problems your whining about.

You want them to ban the very act that is the reason they write policy and procedure manauls for distribution to state appraisal boards. If they do what you want then there is no point for them to exist.

The state boards are the answer to your whining. I repeat. The state boards are the answer to your whining. If your state baord will not enforce the existing state law governing appraisers then you must contact your State legislature Representative and tell that person your concerns. Good luck.

The state boards are not the answer-I repeat, the state boards are not the answer. If you don't believe me, then ask them. They will tell you the same thing------ie.... it's not their job either becuase they only have enforcement authority over appraisers. They will point their fingers at TAF as the USPAP writers or to some other agency.

And around and around we go chasing our tails poo pooing each others solutions. Like I said before--if I had been or currently am a member of any of these regulatory boards and had nothing to offer in the way of a solution(not a perfect solution), then I would feel obligated to resign and let someone else take a shot at it.
If this latest Q&A is in any way representative of TAF idea of getting in the game to begin to solve the problems, then I have to say that we are all in big big trouble. That goes double for all you here on the forum that are at the top of this profession because as leaders in this profession, if all you have to offer is the just say no slogan then it's a sad sad day.

Calling me a whiner is really funny--like the pot calling the kettle black. It sure looks to me like there are a whole bunch of other whiners here besides me. I would rather be labeled a whiner instead of a party liner given the current conditions!!

 

[SANDY]

Ok boys and girls--you all want me the lowly trainee to give you the ultimate answer/solution to the problem? Then here it is-------ready------


Appoint the two smartest people here as CZARS over the entire process with the power to make and enforce any and all rules over the entire industry.

I leave it up to you folks to determine who those two people are!!!

And don't just say no to my idea---- just say yes!!!!

 

[Hamlet]

Only two Czars to enforce the regs over the entire industry? Geeze, talk about overworked! I guess I can expect that knock on my door to hold my hand at any moment.:Eyecrazy:

OK, now that takes care of the appraisers side, now what is your big idea for the MB/lender side of the biz?

 

[The Warrior Monk]

If this latest Q&A is in any way representative of TAF idea of getting in the game to begin to solve the problems, then I have to say that we are all in big big trouble.

It is not a representation of the TAF getting into the game, and to even think that demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of what they do. Furthermore, if people want to make regulatory changes in the profession, and they don't know who to speak to in the first place, then nothing will be accomplished.

That goes double for all you here on the forum that are at the top of this profession because as leaders in this profession, if all you have to offer is the just say no slogan then it's a sad sad day.

If everyone said no, the problem with pressure, for all practical purposes, end tomorrow.

We used to do a great deal of MB work about the time the market started to skyrocket in my area (circa 1998). We never got comp checks requests, were not expected to provide free services, and were not treated like dirt. That came later with a new crop of appraisers offering such services. It's ultimately up to the appraisers which path they choose to take; no amount of regulation will change that.

Calling me a whiner is really funny--like the pot calling the kettle black. It sure looks to me like there are a whole bunch of other whiners here besides me. I would rather be labeled a whiner instead of a party liner given the current conditions!!

I don't whine...I just say no, and interpret it like it is.

 

[Lee Lansford]

Ok boys and girls--you all want me the lowly trainee to give you the ultimate answer/solution to the problem? Then here it is-------ready------


Appoint the two smartest people here as CZARS over the entire process with the power to make and enforce any and all rules over the entire industry.

I leave it up to you folks to determine who those two people are!!!

And don't just say no to my idea---- just say yes!!!!

NOW you're on to something!

 

[Fred]

not to utilize, an appraiser based solely on the fact that the appraiser provided an appraisal reflecting a fair market value estimate that was less than the sale contract price.

Solely? So just say there was also another readon. Who wrote the language, Larry the Loophole-maker?

 

[Fred]

If this latest Q&A is in any way representative of TAF idea of getting in the game to begin to solve the problems,

The only problem they were attempting to solve is to explain to people who can't figure out what USPAP says, what USPAP says.