Local gov agency worse than hoa, with fines.

[glenn walker]

Those people are fine they just need to live in places that have no zoning or code ordinances. I wouldn't live where I'm at if I wanted to create a junkyard or park vehicles on my yard so we I purchased or my father purchased 1 acre with shop on it so we could park vehicle's and junk not bring it home. Yes I understand that most can't buy a shop but those people move to Texas or Arizona or the Calif Mojave Desert.

 

[Mike Ault]

Those people are fine they just need to live in places that have no zoning or code ordinances. I wouldn't live where I'm at if I wanted to create a junkyard or park vehicles on my yard so we I purchased or my father purchased 1 acre with shop on it so we could park vehicle's and junk not bring it home. Yes I understand that most can't buy a shop but those people move to Texas or Arizona or the Calif Mojave Desert.

How many Russian saboteurs do you have living in there?

 

[Alsie35]

Somehow the sayings "You can't fight city hall" and "You can't fix stupid" come to mind here...both appear to be in play...moving is the only viable or rational option if you are unwilling to comply...

 

[glenn walker]

Somehow the sayings "You can't fight city hall" and "You can't fix stupid" come to mind here...both appear to be in play...moving is the only viable or rational option if you are unwilling to comply...One

One has to live where their lifestyle fits in and in residential once the cars start parking on the lawns it grows like cancer. Therefore you locate to where their are like minded people.

I can't live in a HOA because I hate the bossy Karen's that always seem to become managers so I won't live in a Condo or HOA property but I do recognize it's a very good fit for some folks especially ones who like conformity.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Nobody told her to squeeze a bunch of relatives into a house meant for one family.

Sounds like they are one family. And the reason I will never live inside a city limits or in an HOA is exactly the fact that if I own the place, no one is telling me where to park. Period.

 

[ucbruin]

Sounds like they are one family. And the reason I will never live inside a city limits or in an HOA is exactly the fact that if I own the place, no one is telling me where to park. Period.

Isn't privately owned real property in your area subject to some types of laws and/or restrictions....

 

[J Grant]

Regarding Tom's thread title Local gov agency worse than hoa, with fines.

I remember an instance several years ago where an historic district had a strict code of what color the exterior of houses could be. The properties were not in a restricted subdivision, no HOA, but was left up to the city to enforce. One homeowner decided she wanted purple shutters, they were not an obnoxious purple, but they were purple. All hell broke loose. A self-appointed militia of Stalinist Nazi Gladys Kravitz volunteers made a federal case out of it. They won at city hall and decided to ramp it up a few more notches. The begin sneaking in people's back and side yards to look for violations. They got 2 more for color violations on the exterior trim. And people wonder why I'm an extreme libertarian.

The reason they do not want to bend the rules for a simple thing like shutters is because it sets a precedent - then the next person wants red shutters, and the next wants to paint their house orange. The next wants to build out etc. The city sees the historic guidelines are not being followed and lifts the historic designation. The residents lose any tax benefits they had, and now owners can make their homes as ugly as they want or demolish then and sell them to developers who will tear down the lovely, smaller historic home and build a big, glitzy new one. Within five years, the neighborhood is comprised of big ugly newer homes crowded side by side.

Happy?

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Isn't privately owned real property in your area subject to some types of laws and/or restrictions....

Like what? I don't have to get anything but septic approval and building permits ONLY if the building has electricity. And "inspection" pretty much nothing except the soil morph test for the septic. Yes, we had to give the power company ROW, ditto rural water, which we also paid for taps (I have a tap if I need it but I still use a well.) PS - I don't have to get a permit to drill a water well.

I can hunt, shoot, and fish in my own ponds. I can own as many cars as I want and can leave a disabled car in the driveway for as long as I want. I can mow my lawn any time of day or night, cut hay any time of day. I cut 2 trees down last month and I will burn the tops when the weather is right. Currently we are under a burn ban, that's about as regulated as we get. I can pile as much wood on the porch as I want and the fire marshal isn't going to say squat.

The cities had some regulatory authority over 5 miles from their borders, but the legislature stripped that authority a few years ago. When a small rural subdivision was being built the "local" city refused to bring water to it so a nearby town tapped off the "Two Ton" loop and provided water to them. The denying town had a cow, but they had refused to deliver water, so too bad.

 

[ucbruin]

Like what? I don't have to get anything but septic approval and building permits ONLY if the building has electricity. And "inspection" pretty much nothing except the soil morph test for the septic. Yes, we had to give the power company ROW, ditto rural water, which we also paid for taps (I have a tap if I need it but I still use a well.) PS - I don't have to get a permit to drill a water well.

I can hunt, shoot, and fish in my own ponds. I can own as many cars as I want and can leave a disabled car in the driveway for as long as I want. I can mow my lawn any time of day or night, cut hay any time of day. I cut 2 trees down last month and I will burn the tops when the weather is right. Currently we are under a burn ban, that's about as regulated as we get. I can pile as much wood on the porch as I want and the fire marshal isn't going to say squat.

The cities had some regulatory authority over 5 miles from their borders, but the legislature stripped that authority a few years ago. When a small rural subdivision was being built the "local" city refused to bring water to it so a nearby town tapped off the "Two Ton" loop and provided water to them. The denying town had a cow, but they had refused to deliver water, so too bad.

See there are restrictions....
Could you allow neighbors to use your land as a cemetery....

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

See there are restrictions....
Could you allow neighbors to use your land as a cemetery....

I am donating 5 acres to our cemetery when it runs out of room and calling it the Fairmount Annex. But others encroaching upon my land is not the same as a city declaring a few square foot of lawn as protected from parking by the OWNER.