mah\nufactured home serial #

[BUCKET]

i have a problem, i did a manuafactured home that was gutted and no data sheet. i stated such in the report, now the lender is going crazy trying to figure out how to get the serial #. i told him there is one on the cross member, but this is 50 or so feet crawling on back in black widows and whatever else. i am pretty sure we are required to only go head and shoulders in. most of the deals that can not find the info go through without because this is converted to real property and than # is no longer relevant. any ideas? i have been doing this for almost 20 yuears and these folks appear to be crazy. the tags are there. no title in state records so no info there.

bucket

:new_newbie: :new_newbie:

 

[Caterina Platt]

Bucket,

Tell your lender to use the HUD Certification Label numbers you gathered from the exterior tags and go to this website

http://www.ibts.org/label_req.shtml

They have a cross referenced database that will result in them sending the lender a letter with the serial numbers, etc.

Something you said, however has me curious. All manufactured dwelling reports require the Data plate info and the HUD label numbers, regardless of taxation status or retired titles. How have you not had to offer this info before?

 

[Darrel Clark]

Since you are in Nevada, it is very likely that your manufactured home was constructed in an Idaho plant. Call the Division of Building Safety-Building Bureau in Idaho. You will want to speak with Janice. Her phone number is 208-332-7139. She can look up the information for you if you have the info from the HUD tags. You can also get a copy of the data plate for $36.

 

[RSW]

Will HUD/FHA do a manufactured home when the HUD tags or certificates are missing?

 

[Mr Rex]

Yes:

Section 5 – HUD Data Plate


The Federal Manufactured Home Construction and Safety Standards, Part 24 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 3280, requires that “each manufactured home shall bear a data plate affixed in a permanent manner near the main electrical panel or other readily accessible or visible location.” Typically, the HUD Data Plate is adjacent to the electric service panel, the utility room or within a cabinet in the kitchen. Over time, homeowners often remove this sheet and it is common for the data plate to be missing from a manufactured home.



Copies of the data plate are generally available only from the manufacturer of the home or the in-plant inspection agency responsible for inspecting the home prior to its shipment from the manufacturing plant. If the data plate is missing, locating a replacement or the specific data plate information from the manufacturer or in-plant inspection agency may be impractical or expensive. Some manufacturers are no longer in business or the in-plant inspection agency may no longer have the information.

The HUD Data Plate (Manufacturer’s Data Plate) provides information on:
1. Name and address of the manufacturing plant where the home was constructed;
2. Serial number, model designation and date of manufacture (date the certification label was applied to the home).
3. Compliance statement;
4. List of certification label(s) number(s);
5. List of major factory installed equipment, and
6. Roof zone and wind zone maps designating the zones for which the home has been constructed.

The heating/cooling certification and insulation maps may be on the data plate, or may be in separate documentation provided with the home. The data plate is not required to include the heating and cooling certification. Manufacturers and in-plant inspection agencies are not required to maintain the heating and cooling certification information.

The Certification Label (aka HUD Seal) is a 2 inch by 4 inch aluminum plate, permanently attached to the home, located at one end of each section of the home, approximately one foot up from the floor and one foot in from the road side, or as near that location on a permanent part of the exterior of the home as practicable. This Certification Label is often referred to as the HUD Label, or the HUD Tag. Etched on the Certification Label is the Certification Label Number, also referred to as the HUD Label Number. Label numbers are not required to be sequential on multi-section homes.

Verifications of the Certification Label Numbers are available from the manufacturer, the in-plant inspection agency, and HUD, sometimes at-cost. Contacts for the in-plant inspection agencies are available on HUD’s manufactured housing website. Information on requesting these verifications is available at the website for the manufactured housing program at http://www.HUD.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/mhs/mhslabels.cfm.

Field
· Protocol
HUD Data Plate
· Mark the appropriate box to indicate if the Data Plate is attached. If the Data Plate is missing and/or the appraiser is unable to locate it, the appraiser only needs to report this fact and is not required to secure the Data Plate information from another source.
Certification Label
(aka HUD Seal)
· To be eligible for FHA-insured financing, the manufactured home must have a HUD Certification Label affixed to the tail-light end of each transportable section.
· If the appraiser is unable to locate the HUD Certification Label (HUD Seal), the lender must be notified.
Manufacturer’s Serial # or VIN #
· Enter the manufacturer’s serial number or VIN # which can be found on the HUD Data Plate. If the Data Plate is missing, the serial number is stamped on the foremost cross member of the supporting frame of the hitch-end of the manufactured home.
HUD Certification Label #(s)
· Enter the label #s for each section.
Field
· Protocol
Manufacturer’s Name, Trade/Model, and date of Manufacture
· Provide the manufacturer’s name, model name of the subject unit and date of manufacturer. This information can be found on the HUD Data Plate.
Wind, Roof Load and Thermal Zones

· The HUD Data Plate contains wind, roof load and thermal zone maps which designate the zone for which the home was constructed. Mark the appropriate box.
· Mark the appropriate box indicating whether the subject meets zone requirements for its location.
· Marked “no” if the zone map indicates the manufactured home was constructed for a geographic area different from where the home is located, the appraiser should note and highlight this discrepancy.
· Mark “no” if the Data Plate is missing. The appraiser should note: Date plate missing, unable to determine compliance with wind, roof load and thermal zones requirements.
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[Mr Rex]

FHA will accept after further steps taken for verification, its uop to th lender to take these steps.

Verifications of the Certification Label Numbers are available from the manufacturer, the in-plant inspection agency, and HUD, sometimes at-cost. Contacts for the in-plant inspection agencies are available on HUD’s manufactured housing website. Information on requesting these verifications is available at the website for the manufactured housing program at http://www.HUD.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/mhs/mhslabels.cfm.

Field
· Protocol
HUD Data Plate
· Mark the appropriate box to indicate if the Data Plate is attached. If the Data Plate is missing and/or the appraiser is unable to locate it, the appraiser only needs to report this fact and is not required to secure the Data Plate information from another source.
Certification Label
(aka HUD Seal)
· To be eligible for FHA-insured financing, the manufactured home must have a HUD Certification Label affixed to the tail-light end of each transportable section.
· If the appraiser is unable to locate the HUD Certification Label (HUD Seal), the lender must be notified.

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[Mr Rex]

[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]HUD does not reissue tags for manufactured homes. However, the Department can issue a letter of label (tag) verification for units for which it can locate the necessary historical information. The label numbers can be found on a data plate inside the home in one of three locations: on or near the main electrical panel, in a kitchen cabinet, in a bedroom closet. The data plate has a map of the United States to let the consumer know the Wind Zone and Snow Load for which their home was built. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You may request letters of label verification from the Institute for Building Technology and Safety (IBTS), by visiting IBTS’ website at http://www.ibts.org/label_req.htm or via fax at: 703-437-6894[/FONT]

 

[BUCKET]

Data Plate Verification

thanks, my problem is the lender is requiring me to find the serial #. plate is missing and no title available of before conversions. the typical perimeter is concrete block here. i have found most crawl spaces to be on the othere end, not the end closest to the front crossmember. we are not required to crawl all the way up and get it are we? my understanding is no. help!!! ibts asks for the data plate info. this is 1985, completely gutted remodel. so cant get the serial #

 

[BUCKET]

hi caterina,

i do fill out the form info like itg is required, but i have not been oinformed after it goes out if the serial # was gotten, and or how it was done. we dont have to go uner and to the front do we?

dennis

Bucket,

Tell your lender to use the HUD Certification Label numbers you gathered from the exterior tags and go to this website

http://www.ibts.org/label_req.shtml

They have a cross referenced database that will result in them sending the lender a letter with the serial numbers, etc.

Something you said, however has me curious. All manufactured dwelling reports require the Data plate info and the HUD label numbers, regardless of taxation status or retired titles. How have you not had to offer this info before?

 

[CURT VAN HOOSER]

Bucket, here is sunny California, we have have an HCD 433A which is a document that certifies the installation of the manufactured home on a permanant foundation. This document basically converts the home to real property for tax purposes. This form identifies the subject by model, and serial and has the tag numbers as well. I can't be certain, but I assumed all states had a similar document. I get them from my local title company and include a copy in every report.