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"Map Reference" on URAR

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A new one today. Reviewer wants 'map reference' filled in on URAR.

I never fill that in. Now they won't leave me alone. when I asked

them what is needed, they wanted a map source: Delorme,

Microsoft Streets and trips, etc. I said I use aerial photos and

USGS 1968 Datum (topos). they said fine. So it goes...
 

liznindy

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Frank,

I use the N/S and E/W coordinants (sp) of the subject property. Example: 1000 N; 500 E.
 

airphoto

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And I use either the Latitude/Longitude I read off the GPS while in their driveway, or site in the cross-hairs in DeLorme and read it off'n there ..
 

Lee in L.A.

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I seem to recall seeing somewhere they want the reference from whatever is the most common map in the area.

I don't think it covers the whole country or even close, but around here the Thomas Brothers Map Book is the "Bible" of maps. I just cite the map page and grid, and they're happy. 8)
 

Ray Ohler

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ANYTHING you want as long as its filled in and that will make them ALL happy because most of "them" don't have a clue 8O . I personally use the county tax map numbers or in the city the block and lot numbers and have never been questioned in 16 years 8) . As far as what "the book" says, it probably depends on which book you read :idea: .
 

Mountain Man

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I do the same, put the county tax map number or land lot and District. I figure that is the most "offical" map since it was done by the county gvmnt.
 

jtrotta

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Ray & Mel - have been doing it the same way for years; Q.-why the uw wants it filled in (in my mind) no "blank spaces" are acceptable. 8)
 

Jo Ann Meyer Stratton

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Beginning many, many years ago underwriters wanted the MSA in the map reference blank. The MSA in map reference plus the census tract makes the magic ten numbers of the total census number that FHA wanted with the 4150.2. Not all areas of the country have a MSA (mine for instance doesn't) so I use the FIPS number for my state and county, which basically means the same thing The numbers of 04-009, 9916.00 indicate Arizona, Graham County, south of Swift Trail, west of Highway 191 in any federal agencies documentation, whether FHA, FEMA, etc. Check out the census tract info for your subject on one of the web sites and you will find a FIPS number, MSA (if you are in a metropolitan area) and a census tract number for your subject's neighborhood. When a federal agency is investigating a lender, they can learn all sorts of things about that lender's policies, lending practices, etc by that set of numbers.
 

Don Clark

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8)

Many moons ago I was taught, and I have taught others over the years that what is needed is the map page and number of the most common street map available. If there is no such map, a tax map, or even an attachment with directions would be appropriate. This allows a person not as smart as the appraiser who completed the report, to reasonably find the property. Such as a reviewer from out of state who has no local competence, so he/she can violate USPAP in doing a review of a property in a market they know nothing about.

:twisted:

Don
 

rtubbs

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I also ue the MSA or NONE if there is no MSA and have never been questioned. With the variety of different responses to your post, it appears that the information is meaningless, anyway.
 
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