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[Ken B]

Apprazur still has not identified the section in USPAP which states the numerical expression OR benchmark must be stated by the appraiser. To use his argument, absent that specific requirement, a literal reading means that anyone can state the numerical expression OR benchmark.

He can wiggle and waffle and laugh all he wants, but until he proves that the appraiser must be the source of the numerical expression OR benchmark, he is wrong in his assertion.

And I don't know why I need to state the obvious, but a state board is not a court of law and when the statements made in this thread are exposed, no judge or jury in the country would believe Apprazur in a "he said, she said" argument.

So let's wrack up the score; -1 for every "yes" answer.

1) Would Apprazer opine upon a value verbally without documenting the verbal appraisal in accordance with USPAP? Yes

2) Would Apprazur accept an assignment contingent upon a predetermined result? Yes

3) Would Apprazur lie in a court of law or before a tribunal of his peers regarding his actions? Yes, yes, oh most certainly yes

Final score: -5

And Apprazur's prize is a trip before the WA State Appraiser's Commission where he will be instructed to leave his license at the door on the way out. Have a nice day.

 

[Mister Ed]

That's pretty hilarious Ed !!

Thanks... glad you could see the humor in the point I was making.

 

[fifteen]

Originally Posted by Ken B

Apprazur still has not identified the section in USPAP which states the numerical expression OR benchmark must be stated by the appraiser. To use his argument, absent that specific requirement, a literal reading means that anyone can state the numerical expression OR benchmark.

Ken your argument is off. Who else can perform an appraisal but an appraiser? Must that appraisal have a numerical value expressed? Was USPAP written for non-appraisers??!!

He can wiggle and waffle and laugh all he wants, but until he proves that the appraiser must be the source of the numerical expression OR benchmark, he is wrong in his assertion.

As stated a numerical expression must be somewhere in the equation to perform an appraisal. Is the appraisal done in the eyes of the client and the job fulfilled when the appraisal is received and you've been paid? I'd say that's a great case for numerical expression.

And I don't know why I need to state the obvious, but a state board is not a court of law and when the statements made in this thread are exposed, no judge or jury in the country would believe Apprazur in a "he said, she said" argument.

USPAP is written to conform with the laws of land and usually the state. It's not written to circumvent those laws by applying restrictions that aren't already accounted for in common law. It is he said he said anywhere in this land where you're innocent till proven guilty.

So let's wrack up the score; -1 for every "yes" answer.

1) Would Apprazer opine upon a value verbally without documenting the verbal appraisal in accordance with USPAP? Yes. No and where did I state that? Is this another case of he said he said? It appears I'm in front of a kangaroo court lol

2) Would Apprazur accept an assignment contingent upon a predetermined result? Yes. No, Again, where did I say that? I never accept assignments based on a pre-determined value and certainly never allow my valuations to be influenced. Are you talking about that $190k? They said they needed $250k. I asked whats the lowest they could work with and they said $190k and I said that's doable. It was a value opinion of mine and not theirs.

3) Would Apprazur lie in a court of law or before a tribunal of his peers regarding his actions? Yes, yes, oh most certainly yes. You're calling me a liar when the courts of the land would uphold my testimony. I've never been in court over an appraisal and haven't carried E & O insurance for over 90% of my career. Why? Because I know what I'm doing.

Final score: -5

Final score for Ken -10 and free E & O insurance for a year due to lack of comprehension of terms. We don't want him getting in trouble for addled judgements and accusations that might be carried through to his appraisal work.

It's hilarious to me how judgemental (notice there's "mental" in judgemental?) you guys are when faced with facts that straighten out twisted logic. Your mentors must be proud.

And Apprazur's prize is a trip before the WA State Appraiser's Commission where he will be instructed to leave his license at the door on the way out. Have a nice day.

 

[Ken B]

Round and round we go, but until an appraiser opines upon a numerical expression OR benchmark, that information is not an appraisal. When the appraiser opines upon that information, an appraisal has been performed.

Get your relationships straight.

 

[JSmith43]

I think it about time to digitally express the value of this degraded thread. I choose to express it with the middle digit and the ignore button:icon_mrgreen:

 

[fifteen]

It's not "opines upon a numerical expression OR benchmark" it's "opines upon a numerical expression OR numerical benchmark" . Words arent numbers. Geez, I feel like I'm trying to teach 1st graders.

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[Mr Rex]

It's not "opines upon a numerical expression OR benchmark" it's "opines upon a numerical expression OR numerical benchmark" . Words arent numbers. Geez, I feel like I'm trying to teach 1st graders.

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So if its 1st graders its a number, if its first graders its not?:new_smile-l:

 

[Stone]

It's not "opines upon a numerical expression OR benchmark" it's "opines upon a numerical expression OR numerical benchmark" . Words arent numbers. Geez, I feel like I'm trying to teach 1st graders.

It's been real.........
Later

And, as usual, you haven't actually read what people wrote, only found ways to defend your position.

 

[fifteen]

I can only hope that someday you guys can grasp what I'm telling you. Now mentor, you know with your finger up it's harder to grasp. Ken stop pulling on the Ducks ears. PE can you show us all how to draw a cow at the blackboard - and no chalk is not for eating! After class Tim's mom brought in some cookies for us to share. Uhh ohh, it's getting near naptime, get your mats.

 

[Ken B]

I am curious who Apprazur would designate as a "peer."