MPAT-The Mississippi Training Model

[sputnam]

The course needs to be approved by the state not the Instructor. I'm not aware of a state that requires the Instructor be approved. To be a Mentor the reqirement is the same as that of a Supervisor, which is is not a high bar.
The exception to all of this is the teaching of USPAP where the Instructor must have been trained/approved by the AQB.

Here.. and I'm confident in many states.. the Appraisal Board has to improve both the instructor and the course. I know that because I am an improved QE and CE instructor in NC. I'm also an AQB Certified USPAP Instructor. If Mississippi does it differently, that's their choice.

 

[John Hassler]

Here.. and I'm confident in many states.. the Appraisal Board has to improve both the instructor and the course. I know that because I am an improved QE and CE instructor in NC. I'm also an AQB Certified USPAP Instructor. If Mississippi does it differently, that's their choice.

Thanks for the added info. Is the approval of the instructor generic (i.e., must have a teaching credential, must have held a license for 5 years, etc.) or is it tied to the specific course (only Sput can teach this specific approved course)?

 

[Non Sequitur]

Great person, I've sat in more than a few of her live courses. With that said, she's just selling her wares like everyone else who advocated for classroom time to replace field experience.

I do not support this mess in any way. IF and that's a big IF, as George mentioned if this were QE as opposed to replacing field experience I would have no problem with it. But as-is, this and PAREA is a joke that would never be shoved down the certified general side's throats, but here we are. Residential appraisers are dropping like flies for a lack of work, but all we hear about is eliminating field experience training to bring in a hoard of noobs. What a mess.

 

[George Hatch]

I'll take it one step further and comment that the period in my career when I was the biggest menace to the public was in that yr2-yr3 mark, wherein I was in the groove and could be considered trustworthy to handle the simple assignments. But not savvy enough to always recognize when I was in over my head.

 

[Mejappz]

Great person, I've sat in more than a few of her live courses. With that said, she's just selling her wares like everyone else who advocated for classroom time to replace field experience.

I do not support this mess in any way. IF and that's a big IF, as George mentioned if this were QE as opposed to replacing field experience I would have no problem with it. But as-is, this and PAREA is a joke that would never be shoved down the certified general side's throats, but here we are. Residential appraisers are dropping like flies for a lack of work, but all we hear about is eliminating field experience training to bring in a hoard of noobs. What a mess.

She was caught on tape saying that the state boards needed to be "wined and dined" to get Parea passed. The road to helll is paved with good intentions.

 

[Mejappz]

Great person, I've sat in more than a few of her live courses. With that said, she's just selling her wares like everyone else who advocated for classroom time to replace field experience.

I do not support this mess in any way. IF and that's a big IF, as George mentioned if this were QE as opposed to replacing field experience I would have no problem with it. But as-is, this and PAREA is a joke that would never be shoved down the certified general side's throats, but here we are. Residential appraisers are dropping like flies for a lack of work, but all we hear about is eliminating field experience training to bring in a hoard of noobs. What a mess.

You and I (from the beginning) condemned Parea, while others stayed silent or were indifferent. Now people are starting to wake up and see what a corrupt and filthy organization TAF is, but is it too late? Only time will tell. But Parea is the AMCs, GSEs, and lenders' wet dream. A hoard of rubber stamping form-fillers ready to place their signature and E & O on the line for peanuts.

 

[Elliott]

Speaking of TAF:

(Valuation Review 3/2/23) "NFHA joins other groups in declining TAF invitation
Recently, the National Fair Housing Alliance (NFHA) joined leading civil rights and consumer advocates and issued a statement in a letter to The Appraisal Foundation (TAF) declining to join TAF’s consumer council. NFHA specifically pointed out some areas of concern it has with TAF’s structures and policies."

The lines have been drawn, not sure I believe either side.

 

[shrubberyvaluation]

You and I (from the beginning) condemned Parea, while others stayed silent or were indifferent. Now people are starting to wake up and see what a corrupt and filthy organization TAF is, but is it too late? Only time will tell. But Parea is the AMCs, GSEs, and lenders' wet dream. A hoard of rubber stamping form-fillers ready to place their signature and E & O on the line for peanuts.

If getting licensed is easy and fast (I assume PAREA can be done part time like MPAT) it will be much easier to get people to risk their license to profit from the next uptick as they will not be investigated until things slow down after they made their money....depending how much that is being an AMC monkey.

 

[sputnam]

Thanks for the added info. Is the approval of the instructor generic (i.e., must have a teaching credential, must have held a license for 5 years, etc.) or is it tied to the specific course (only Sput can teach this specific approved course)?

You have to be an approved instructor... then, the each course has to be approved... and then the instructor has to be approved to teach that course.

 

[sputnam]

If getting licensed is easy and fast (I assume PAREA can be done part time like MPAT) it will be much easier to get people to risk their license to profit from the next uptick as they will not be investigated until things slow down after they made their money....depending how much that is being an AMC monkey.

I'm not completely opposed to the idea of a PAREA type approach as part of required training. It shouldn't completely replace the mentor/apprentice model. I've been an appraiser for a while. I've trained other appraisers. My experience has been that most appraisers should not try to be on their own for at least 5 years after beginning full time appraisal work. Sure, there are exceptions. Some people get there faster. Some people never get there.