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My experience at IndyMac

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What I experienced

Excellent post. Thank you Vernon.

In early 2000 I appraised a very high quality custom log home for a local mortgage broker who sold the loan to IndyMac. The owner eventually defaulted on the loan during the economic and real estate downturn after 9/11. IndyMac took the property back and had my appraisal reviewed. The review was full of personal opinion and innuendo. The reviewer did not find one error in the report but included sales of vastly inferior houses. I easily refuted all the points made by the review, sent my response and waited to hear from IndyMac. In the mean time IndyMac listed the property with an agent that had never sold a high value property and was not a part of the group of agents in the market area that had the experience and contacts necessary to sell such a property. After the agent did not perform, they hired an agent located in a distant metropolitan area that had never sold a property in the county in which the property was located. The second agent never listed the property in the local MLS because he wasn't a member. After an extended marketing time the property sold for well under market value. I received letters from IndyMac demanding I pay any losses they suffered. I replied with a letter explaining how badly they messed up by selling the property for far below market value. Surprisingly, they ordered a second review on my original report. The second review came in much closer to my original value and at almost twice what IndyMac had just sold the property for. There was a log home comparable sale within a mile of the subject property that had sold recently. It was inferior to the subject in terms of quality but no quality adjustment was made in the second review. I sent another letter to IndyMac pointing out that the second review was also flawed because a crucial difference in quality had been ignored. I included pictures of the interior of the subject property showing granite, marble, custom everything, top quality appliances, etc. I also included interior pictures of the recent log home sale used by the second reviewer showing cheap countertops, Home Depot cabinets, Sears appliances, etc. That was the last I heard from IndyMac. A while later I learned from a client that I was on the IndyMac black list. I have never followed up on who bought that house at such a fire sale price but I have my suspicions that it was purchased by an insider. I found out later that the original mortgage broker who sold the loan to IndyMac had been changing some of my reports to remove negative comments, etc. I documented everything and sent it into the Utah Division of Real Estate. When I followed up with the Division of Real Estate a few months later it was obvious to me they weren't going to do anything with the information I had provided. When I warned other appraisers about the mortgage broker who had changed my reports they shrugged their shoulders and kept working for the crooks.
After that I decided that I wouldn't work for any mortgage brokers except a couple that I knew well and trusted. I also decided that I didn't want to work for dysfunctional organizations like IndyMac because they were obviously very poorly managed and put me at risk.
I hope the people that were at the top are carefully investigated by the Feds.
Best wishes to the honest, ethical and competent.
 
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Sadly, we don't need terrorists to bring this country down - the banks and our own government are doing it for them.

What a hideous comment.
 
What a hideous comment.


Wait till the paper trail shows how many Foreclosures the Owner address is India, Iraq, Iran. & othe foriegn countries. Sorry Janet but there is PROFF that many purchases in AZ the owners actually have addresses in these countries.

Foot Note: See the report on clipped Coupons. That should make you nervous

Sad truth is we lived so good, for so long in this country we took it as a right instead of a privledge & now that we have allowed countries that some were never even heard of prior to the nineties to take us over, we still haven't let it sink in that we are in deep trouble & we THINK the Government will fix everything.

The USA has been Sold & all that is needed is the next president to sign the final papers.
 
Vernon, Cheers! Its good to know that we are not alone.
 
Whew! That was alot, but very informative. I too had a very bad experience, not to the depth of what you detailed, but in a form where IndyMac specifically asked me to not include the Certification pages on my appraisals. I contacted the State and Attorney General, whom both said "you have to include them". Also, I reported previous sales and they tried to get me to not include them. Later, it was found the market was a complete set up and it appeared Indy Mac let alot of things...slide... I was asked to re-appraise the properties again and said "no way" and called the authorities. 1 year later, IndyMac goes down.
 
Seems to me you communicate very clearly, Vernon.
Thanks.
 
thanks for sharing your story vern! ethics and integrity still mean sometime to some of us! good luck and best wishes!
 
Vernon,
That story brings back memories of Home Savings, only worse. I hope they paid through the noise!!! In the end what was Home Savings (now Wamu) may be joining Indymac in the dustbin of history. Who says there's not poetic justice. Do you know what ever happed with those loans?
 
swimming naked

Vernon,
Do you know what ever happed with those loans?

I don't know if any of those loans went bad. It was a rising market back then.

Rising markets often rescue bad lending decisions. Still, I remember IMB had a commercial non-performing rate of 9% at the time I was there, which was about 8 times the national commercial bank average at the time. I don't see how their commercial lending program could have been profitable with a number like that.

It's times like these when the same type of underwriting turns out much worse. As Warren Buffett says, "It's only when the tide goes out that you learn who's been swimming naked."
 
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