No College Degree for Cert Generals or Residential Appraisers

[ZZGAMAZZ]

A Long tine ago nobody reads the fine print there have always been alternative education options.

I was very ssurprised recently when McKissock revieweed my appraisal educaion and advised me that I need only 100 hours to satify AG licensse requirements, including an "adjustment" course of 60 hours.

 

[ZZGAMAZZ]

I have a problem with PAREA. Experience was always the bigger barrier to entry. The difference between QE/Experience vs the full academic degree prerequisite is that QE and experience are actually job related.

I completed a 2+ year culinary apprenticeship sponsored by the American Culinary Federation [ACF], taught at Delgado Comm College, NOLA, which conferred a working chef certificaion as well as an AS degree. Students attended class on campus 2 days a week and were responsible to find themselves full-time paying jobs in dozens of locall supporting foodservice entities, where the chefs were loosely responsible to monitor the apprentices' work experience that theoreticaally corresponded with their schoolwork, changing employers at least every year. Somehow it worked becusee the network of supporting hotels & restaurant, etc. were cohesive, whereas an apprisal trinee leaves virtually Everything from a single mento.

 

[Mark K]

There's a reason most (maybe all) legitimate professions aren't even having a discussion about removing their degree requirements.

That’s probably because most legitimate professionals aren’t being turned into little more than box checkers, data collectors, and forced labor drones working at the behest of their government sponsored entity overlords. The mortgage loan plantation owners are striving to lower the qualifications needed to appraise a property to the least common denominator. It’s really not a lot different than virtually everything else in the computerized world today. If you can follow directions and have the computer skills of a 12-year-old, you can appraise for mortgage lending.

 

[Zoe]

If you have an associates degree, I think your starting salary as a policeman in Memphis goes way up and if you are working on a degree, they will help pay for it and then you get big pay increase once you get the degree. If you have bachelor's degree, the pay increases more.

The degree also opens doors for higher positions in law enforcement like higher officer positions or State Trooper, TBI, FBI, etc.

 

[Zoe]

I completed a 2+ year culinary apprenticeship sponsored by the American Culinary Federation [ACF], taught at Delgado Comm College, NOLA, which conferred a working chef certificaion as well as an AS degree. Students attended class on campus 2 days a week and were responsible to find themselves full-time paying jobs in dozens of locall supporting foodservice entities, where the chefs were loosely responsible to monitor the apprentices' work experience that theoreticaally corresponded with their schoolwork, changing employers at least every year. Somehow it worked becusee the network of supporting hotels & restaurant, etc. were cohesive, whereas an apprisal trinee leaves virtually Everything from a single mento.

I imagine some head chefs at many many locations make some really good money. Think about all the places that use a head chef.

 

[George Hatch]

It takes a certain amount of intellect and academic skills to effectively learn how to do the job. The question from a govt licensing perspective is how much is sufficient to that purpose.

The profession itself can establish higher standards and so can the individuals set forth to a higher personal standard as a means of elevating their social standing , but that goes beyond what regulatory requirement would be or should be concerned with.

 

[BRCJR]

It takes a certain amount of intellect and academic skills to effectively learn how to do the job. The question from a govt licensing perspective is how much is sufficient to that purpose.

The profession itself can establish higher standards and so can the individuals set forth to a higher personal standard as a means of elevating their social standing , but that goes beyond what regulatory requirement would be or should be concerned with.

My "entry level" license (Licensed Residential) should not stop me from learning. Even if I cannot obtain a higher license level, I can still educate myself.

I think many just stop gaining meaningful education and fall into the trap of "gotta get my CE hours in".

I consider myself very fortunate to have traveled the appraisal profession path I was afforded. I have turned down offers to come to work for commercial firms with them knowing my license level and knowing it would not change.

Some was luck and some was putting myself in the right place at the right time.

If all one does is the minimum required, then that is all one will be, in my opinion.

 

[George Hatch]

All true.

There are some drivers who are highly skilled at driving, but the qualifying criteria for a driver's license are aimed at establishing a minimum benchmark for everyone else who aren't specially gifted at driving.

 

[Zoe]

All true.

There are some drivers who are highly skilled at driving, but the qualifying criteria for a driver's license are aimed at establishing a minimum benchmark for everyone else who aren't specially gifted at driving.

Look, don't compare appraisal profession to driving a vehicle. Don't play me.

However, I bet I could make more driving a big rig today.

Some of theses truckers make big money. Have a little sleeper in back.

 

[George Hatch]

My point has always been that if the incumbents want to protect their market share - or burnish their standing with the public - then it's on them to do it; not the govt. The govt's role with any form of occupational licensing is to protect the public from incompetents. Not to advance the social standing of the occupation. If someone is ashamed to be an appraiser then the best they can do for themselves is to be excellent.