Our day has come, our day has come

[JENIFFERW]

I meant to start this as a positive thread darn it...

 

[rcsone]

Fine? I don't get it. For what?

....it is better to contact them if you have questions, rather than answer them if they hafta ask first.....rs

 

[Mike Boyd]

For now, I will just try to relish in the fact that I might be poor, but I am free, and know I am morally on the right side of things. I think that those of us that have done the right thing, and suffered for it in many cases, have a future that is brighter now because of all of this. That is probably much better than a lot of people in our industry feel right now.

Oh happy day

99 years is way too long. We are running out of crushed rock here in CA and the offenders should only be kept "on the payroll" as long as they are still young enough and strong enough to swing that sledge hammer breaking up those big boulders. 10 years and permanent loss of license.

 

[rcsone]

99 years is way too long. We are running out of crushed rock here in CA and the offenders should only be kept "on the payroll" as long as they are still young enough and strong enough to swing that sledge hammer breaking up those big boulders. 10 years and permanent loss of license.

.....are you forgeting about the "Big One" or the slide into the ocean?.........the land east of the coastal moutain range has a shortage of crushed rock...........rs

 

[Mike Boyd]

A single, large California boulder would take 10 years for any cheater to break up. They could be lined up along isolated streches of I 5. Water and idle taco trucks could make twice a day runs. If they escape, so what? They would starve without the taco trucks.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

I wonder if Metamorphic has a point though? I would hate that, but maybe he's right. Maybe I need to lawyer up just to be on the safe side. I sure wish things weren't that way, but who knows. I was kinda thinking I should just wait and see if they ever get around to calling me. I'm sure they have plenty of follow-up to do with people that were directly involved in what they have been charged with. Why get myself in the middle of this mess? Then I remembered what I saw posted on here, by Karl I think, about it's better to call them and tell on yourself (which I wouldn't be telling on myself, but it would be voluntary cooperation to show them, look I didn't have anything to do with this) than to have them call you.

I am aware of a particular VERY fraudulent deal she was involved it, because she had no problem with bragging about what she was doing as if it were O.K. I think she was actually proud of how much she could screw people over. I really couldn't believe the audacity. There were some others conspiring with her, but I stayed out of it and told her it was wrong. Anyway though, maybe I should get a lawyer, just in case I have somehow been dragged into some deal that she was committing fraud on. What if she altered my appraisals for instance?

Jennifer .. no one here can give you legal advice. Personally I dont think Id contact the DOJ for any reason, becasue frankly you are not involved. Had you been involved they would have already contacted you. They get their information from various sources and may have in fact already contacted the appraisers they needed.
While it may be advisable to just get a legal opinion regarding your position, IF she changed your appraisals it just nails her more. I wouldnt contact DOJ for any reasons. If you have done nothing wrong then there is no reason to go to them first. We all know those that have been investigated and some that are in jail pending their trials.
Stay positive. If you have no worries .. dont worry.

But thats just my two cents worth.

 

[rcsone]

...take too much effort and thought to escape----government would have to provide for escape to have effective participation.........rs

 

[Metamorphic]

Metamorphic - do you have a legal background?

No, but I've have a local inlaw that's a lawyer and a couple more that are law firm accessories (aides and investigators). I've also got some cop friends. So I get exposed to this stuff a regular basis.

If you think you've got information that would be of value to the investigators and you're inclined to come forward, I definitely think its the right thing to do.

But if you think there's ANY chance that you might be perceived as a suspect, even if only at first glance, I think you would be well served by talking to a lawyer about what you would like to do. Most reputable attorneys will spend a 1/2 hour with you gratis as a consultation just to see if they can help you.

 

[Ms. Janet]

I am aware of a particular VERY fraudulent deal she was involved it, because she had no problem with bragging about what she was doing as if it were O.K. I think she was actually proud of how much she could screw people over. I really couldn't believe the audacity. There were some others conspiring with her, but I stayed out of it and told her it was wrong. Anyway though, maybe I should get a lawyer, just in case I have somehow been dragged into some deal that she was committing fraud on. What if she altered my appraisals for instance?

Sounds to me like you should be especially concerned about exposure to secondhand smoke...

 

[Elliott]

Jenny said, I meant to start this as a positive thread darn it...

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good perp walk as much as the next guy,
but perp walks don't necessarily mean the remaining people are intent
on doing good, they'll just be more careful in gaming the system.

And, Jennifer remember you still have all your 5th Amendment rights intact.
As an attorney once told me, "If they come on your property and knock
on your door, you have the right to slam the door in their face. Which
I took to mean that your under no obligation to answer their questions.
And remember, if you can honestly say, you can't remember, your not
guilty of perjury.