PAREA program

[George Hatch]

I still think PAREA is more useful for Qualifying Education than as a substitute for experience.

 

[Non Sequitur]

I still think PAREA is more useful for Qualifying Education than as a substitute for experience.

If it weren't 12-18 months long.

Either way, PAREA is a failure because the club within the club only saw $$$$. The practicum courses are where AMCs, national firms, and MB will train new puppies for the next couple of years. Once the institute burns through the scholarship money sent from DC, PAREA will be put on the shelf like most of the institute's education portfolio. And the same with MB's practicum offerings, when the grant money runs out, she will retire. But the AMCs and national firms will still use practicum as a hook for a couple of more years as a recruitment tool.

 

[TerryRohrer]

If it weren't 12-18 months long.

Either way, PAREA is a failure because the club within the club only saw $$$$. The practicum courses are where AMCs, national firms, and MB will train new puppies for the next couple of years. Once the institute burns through the scholarship money sent from DC, PAREA will be put on the shelf like most of the institute's education portfolio. And the same with MB's practicum offerings, when the grant money runs out, she will retire. But the AMCs and national firms will still use practicum as a hook for a couple of more years as a recruitment tool.

I think the vast majority of training now happening among new trainees is a minute of training followed by a couple of years of collecting data and typing reports for out-of-state signatures by licensed appraisers. The standard appears to be "acceptable appraisal experience" without a consistent definition. At one time, that meant that gathering data and typing forms without doing any analysis would not suffice. Appraisal analysis and conclusions were necessary for the experience to count. Now, it appears that is not the case. I read someone's account of their career the other day and it progressed from office manager/scheduler/form filler for two years to certified appraiser. No mention of analysis or reaching conclusions based on that analysis were mentioned. Many of the questions here and in Fakebook strengthen the notion that is more common than not.

 

[alebrewer]

I still think PAREA is more useful for Qualifying Education than as a substitute for experience.

Haha. And I think the opposite. I think handing off trainees to any wahoo with 3 years' experience is a recipe for disaster - as we've deftly proven over the past several decades.

 

[Non Sequitur]

I think the vast majority of training now happening among new trainees is a minute of training followed by a couple of years of collecting data and typing reports for out-of-state signatures by licensed appraisers.

It is because that's where the money is. AMCs and national staff have killed, for a lack of better words, the trainee market. And it isn't a secret, the national firms are very proud of their puppies. Another thing, just as in the past the industry had a real problem with the lack of minorities, the current group has a real problem with ageism. But they are OK with that, they have a profile they want and aren't bashful about it in the least.

 

[TerryRohrer]

It is because that's where the money is. AMCs and national staff have killed, for a lack of better words, the trainee market. And it isn't a secret, the national firms are very proud of their puppies. Another thing, just as in the past the industry had a real problem with the lack of minorities, the current group has a real problem with ageism. But they are OK with that, they have a profile they want and aren't bashful about it in the least.

And appraisal boards are culpable. It appears that is where the working definition of "acceptable appraisal experience" is established, and at least here, there has been a concerted effort to ensure that means "no barriers to certification." Much of that is the result of having a lifetime board member simultaneously carrying out the TAF/AARO agenda, sitting on the TAF board at the same time.

 

[Non Sequitur]

And appraisal boards are culpable. It appears that is where the working definition of "acceptable appraisal experience" is established, and at least here, there has been a concerted effort to ensure that means "no barriers to certification." Much of that is the result of having a lifetime board member simultaneously carrying out the TAF/AARO agenda, sitting on the TAF board at the same time.

You are correct, most of this was pushed down from the alphabet soup in DC. But don't give the institute and other appraisal orgs a pass, they didn't push back and their members were involved up to their necks.

 

[TerryRohrer]

You are correct, most of this was pushed down from the alphabet soup in DC. But don't give the institute and other appraisal orgs a pass, they didn't push back and their members were involved up to their necks.

Except AI has no authority whatsoever in the matter.

 

[Non Sequitur]

Except AI has no authority whatsoever in the matter.

Didn't say they have authority. But along your lines, if the institute is toothless then why have a presence and spend money in DC, why partner with TAF, why fly around the world to conferences? Heck, why do anything other than put together classes?

 

[TerryRohrer]

Didn't say they have authority. But along your lines, if the institute is toothless then why have a presence and spend money in DC, why partner with TAF, why fly around the world to conferences? Heck, why do anything other than put together classes?

Well, it seems you have knowledge of how it all works and who has the power and leverage, so have it any way you imagine it!