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If you were looking for PCV Murcor you wouldn't find them. They are listed as Murcor, Inc. These AMCs are registering with the corporate names but we all know them by there slimeball...I mean dba names. They should add the dba names or simply post a list of the registered AMCs.
 
If you were looking for PCV Murcor you wouldn't find them. They are listed as Murcor, Inc. These AMCs are registering with the corporate names but we all know them by there slimeball...I mean dba names. They should add the dba names or simply post a list of the registered AMCs.



(b) The registration required by subsection (a) of this section shall include the following
information:
(1) Legal name of the entity seeking registration.
(2) Business address of the entity seeking registration.
(3) Phone contact information of the entity seeking registration.
(4) If the entity is not a corporation that is domiciled in this State, the name and
contact information for the company's agent for service of process in this
State.
(5) The name, address, and contact information for any individual or any
corporation, partnership, or other business entity that owns ten percent
(10%) or more of the appraisal management company.
(6) The name, address, and contact information for the compliance manager.(7) A certification that the entity has a system and process in place to verify that
a person being added to the appraiser panel of the appraisal management
company holds a license in good standing in this State pursuant to the North
Carolina Appraisers Act if a license or certification is required to perform
appraisals.
(8) A certification that the entity has a system in place to require that appraisers
inform the appraisal management company of their areas of geographic
competency, the types of properties the appraiser is competent to appraise,
and the methodologies the appraiser is competent to perform.
(9) A certification that the entity has a system in place to review the work of all
independent appraisers that are performing real estate appraisal services for
the appraisal management company on a periodic basis to validate that the
real estate appraisal services are being conducted in accordance with the
Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice.
(10) A certification that the entity maintains a detailed record of each service
request that it receives and the independent appraiser that performs the
residential real estate appraisal services for the appraisal management
company.
(11) An irrevocable Uniform Consent to Service of Process.
(12) Any other information required by the Board pursuant to G.S. 93E-2-3.
 
If you were looking for PCV Murcor you wouldn't find them. They are listed as Murcor, Inc. These AMCs are registering with the corporate names but we all know them by there slimeball...I mean dba names. They should add the dba names or simply post a list of the registered AMCs.

The DBA names are listed when you search the NCAB AMC list at the NCAB site. That won't help much if you do not know their "corporate name", but DBA is a field in the searchable database at http://www.ncappraisalboard.org/directory/FindAMC.htm
 
Thanks Bob but I think you missed my point. How is the appraiser going to know how to search for the AMC using the legal name. The NCAB is utilizing a database search based on the AMC's legal name however how is the appraiser supposed to obtain this legal name. LSI Appraisals, LLC is on NOTHING that they provide to the appraiser including the checks. I've already emailed Roberta today about LSI's multiple addresses (see earlier post) and the confusion that this causes. Everything from PCV Murcor states PCV Murcor NOT Murcor Inc. As an appraiser I'm would search for PCV Murcor. There needs to either be a list or the dba names need to be included in the database. There are easier ways to do this abd the d'base search is not one of them. Why not just email the list to all appraiser's on a monthly basis. If anything changes then email the appraisers to let them know. I tried to get them to send me a list today, twice. No luck either time.

I appreciate you posting what you got Lysander.

The l;aw does require each AMC to have a "compliance officer" who has an active NCAB Certified General certification.

None of the contact names I looked at on the website are listed as NC Appraisers. Maybe the contact names aren't the compliance manager? I don't know and getting to the point I don't care.

They have had months to get this thing ready for 1/1/11 however it took a bunch of clueless appraisers (myself included) calling on 1/3 & 1/4 to get the database online.
 
Thanks David. That wasn't there earlier when I tried it. I guess maybe I should give them a couple of days to get all the bugs worked out.
 
Sorry David...my point was that they only have to do what is required. The law says they have to register with a "legal name". That might be any one of 10 or more "legal names" they have at their disposal. DBA should have been part of the law from the beginning. Also, the name of the "compliance officer" should also be published.

I still have no idea how this AMC law will help any appraisers. Way too many loop holes and narrow lines to cross.


I imagine they are very busy at the NCAB right now. End of the year stuff, all courses and classes being renewed, lots of NEW classes being presented for approval and trying to get a handle on this AMC stuff. The staff up there are very hard working folks. I have never had any issues with staff employees. They have a pretty good crew in place.
 
I imagine they are very busy at the NCAB right now. End of the year stuff, all courses and classes being renewed, lots of NEW classes being presented for approval and trying to get a handle on this AMC stuff. The staff up there are very hard working folks. I have never had any issues with staff employees. They have a pretty good crew in place.

I agree. I've never had an issue with them and they always seem to try their best to get my questions answered. If anything they are understaffed for the job at hand.
 
Got Mindy's reply within five minutes about the link. Several notables NOT registered FYI...

PCV Murcor
Quantrix
First American
NREIS




First American is Corlogic. PCV is on there too.

Just put in the first letter only, and then hit the search button.



I'm not seeing many of my asset management companies on that list. Are they considered to be AMCs? You guys that are doing HUD REO's, see if the firms that they use are on the list. I know SHET-TEK is one of them, but what about the others? Are they exempt or just out of the loop?
 
First American is Corlogic. PCV is on there too.

Just put in the first letter only, and then hit the search button.



I'm not seeing many of my asset management companies on that list. Are they considered to be AMCs? You guys that are doing HUD REO's, see if the firms that they use are on the list. I know SHET-TEK is one of them, but what about the others? Are they exempt or just out of the loop?

good question, I am also wondering about all of the REO nationwide desk work that is out there.

Does the reviewing AMC of a NC property have to be registered?

Does an AMC hiring an appraiser in NC to review work outside of NC have to be registered?

Doe an AMC hiring an appraiser for national consultation work have to be registered?
 
good question, I am also wondering about all of the REO nationwide desk work that is out there.

Does the reviewing AMC of a NC property have to be registered?

Does an AMC hiring an appraiser in NC to review work outside of NC have to be registered?

Doe an AMC hiring an appraiser for national consultation work have to be registered?
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I am also wondering about all of the REO nationwide desk work that is out there.
The law does not mention reviews (desk reviews) under the definitions of what an services an AMC provides. see 93e-2.2 Definitions. (a) (2) a-g.



1) These folks are EXEMPT from the law: An appraisal management company does not include any of the following:

a. Any agency of the federal government or any State or municipal
government.

c. Any state or federally chartered bank, farm credit system, savings
institution, or credit union. If it is an REO....it is owned by one of those.


2) Yes...but could be challenged. The NC Appraisers Act covers Standards 1, 2 & 3....with Standard 3 being reviews. The poorly written AMC law fails to specifically refer to "reviews" in 93e-2.2 Definitions. (a) (2) a-g. fails to mention the word "review" or the phrase "appraisal review". Only the word "appraisal" was used as to what Appraisal management services include.

3) No. The AMC law does not apply to services provided outside of NC. That would be up to the "other state". If an appraiser who lives in NC can properly review appraisals outside of the state he would be subject to specific laws in the state outside of NC. Again, the Appraisal management services promulgated in the AMC law.....fail to mention appraisal reviews.


4) The NC Appraisers Act (93-e) and the NCAB rules do not cover Standard 4.....Appraisal Consulting. NC law only covers Standards 1, 2 & 3.




Why not just read the law and see what it says.


§ 93E-2-1. Registration required of real estate appraisal management companies;
exceptions.
Beginning January 1, 2011, it shall be unlawful for any person, corporation, partnership,
sole proprietorship, subsidiary, unit, or any other business entity in this State to do any of the
following without first registering with the Board under the provisions of this Article:
(1) Directly or indirectly engage or attempt to engage in business as an appraisal
management company.
(2) Advertise or make a representation that the person or entity is engaging in or
conducting business as an appraisal management company.
(3) In any way act as or provide the services of an appraisal management
company.
"§ 93E-2-2. Definitions.
(a) The following definitions apply in this Article:
(1) Appraisal management company. – A corporation, partnership, sole
proprietorship, subsidiary, unit, or other business entity that utilizes an
appraisal panel or fee panel and performs, directly or indirectly, appraisal
management services.
An appraisal management company does not include any of the following:
a. Any agency of the federal government or any State or municipal
government.
b. An appraiser who enters into an agreement, whether written or
otherwise, with another appraiser for the performance of an
appraisal, and upon completion of the appraisal, the appraisal report
is signed both by the appraiser who completed the appraisal and the
appraiser who requested the completion of the appraisal, except that
an appraisal management company may not avoid the requirements
of this Article by requiring that an employee of the appraisal
management company who is an appraiser sign an appraisal report
that is completed by an appraiser who is a member of the appraisal
panel of the appraisal management company.
c. Any state or federally chartered bank, farm credit system, savings
institution, or credit union.
d. Any licensed real estate broker performing only activities in
accordance with Article 1 of this Chapter.
e. Any officer or employee of an exempt entity described in this
subdivision when acting in the scope of employment for the exempt
entity.
f. Any person licensed to practice law in this State, a court-appointed
personal representative or trustee who orders an appraisal in
connection with a bona fide client relationship in which the person
directly contracts with an independent appraiser.
Page 2 Session Law 2010-141 SL2010-0141
(2) Appraisal management services. – Direct or indirect performance of any of
the following functions on behalf of a lender, financial institution, client, or
any other person:
a. Administer an appraiser panel.
b. Recruit, qualify, and/or verify licensing or certification of appraiserswho are or may become part of an appraiser panel.
c. Negotiate fees and service level expectations with appraisers who are
part of an appraiser panel.
d. Receive an order for an appraisal from one person and deliver the
order for the appraisal to an appraiser that is part of an appraiser
panel for completion.
e. Take and determine the status of orders for appraisals.
f. Conduct quality control of a completed appraisal performed by an
appraiser who is part of an appraiser panel
prior to the delivery of the
appraisal to the person that ordered the appraisal.
g. Provide a completed appraisal performed by an appraiser who is part
of an appraiser panel to one or more persons who have ordered an
appraisal.


(3) Appraiser panel or fee panel. – A network of licensed or certified appraisers
who are independent contractors to the appraisal management company that
have:
a. Responded to an invitation, request, or solicitation from an appraisal
management company, in any form, to perform appraisals for
persons that have ordered appraisals through the appraisal
management company or to perform appraisals for the appraisal
management company directly, on a periodic basis, as requested and
assigned by the appraisal management company; and
b. Been selected and approved by an appraisal management company to
perform appraisals for any client or the appraisal management
company that has ordered an appraisal through the appraisal
management company or to perform appraisals for the appraisal
management company directly, on a periodic basis, as assigned by
the appraisal management company.
(4) Appraisal review. – The act or process of developing and communicating an opinion about the quality of another appraiser's work that was performed as
part of an appraisal assignment,
except that an examination of an appraisal
for grammatical, typographical, or other similar errors shall not be an
appraisal review.
(5) Board. – The North Carolina Appraisal Board under Article 1 of this
Chapter.
(6) Employee. – An individual who has an employment relationship
acknowledged by both the individual and the company and is treated as an
employee for purposes of compliance with federal income tax laws.
(7) Registrant. – A real estate appraisal management company registered
pursuant to this Article.
 
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