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Don Clark

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Just for the record. Many, maybe most appraisers taking the Certified USPAP Instructor exam are failing the second time around. These are appraisers who have failed once, and are retaking the exam. Many are sitting through the entire program a second time.

Some are AI heavy hitters that have taught the subject for years. :roll:

Can't wait to see the fur fly :twisted:

Some states are beginning to balk. North Carolina is not going to require USPAP be taught in 2003, Georgia is pushing for states rights, and all hell is about to break loose when 2003 rolls around and there is no one to teach prelicense or CE USPAP in many states. Also, rumor has it that this is the first step in the AF taking over all appraisal education. I do not personally believe that but there is great concern. Should be like watching someone make sausage, not something you really want to watch. :lol:

The next year or two should be velly intrestingggg :wink:

Don Clark, IFA
 

George Hatch

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According to The Appraisal Foundation's list of Certified USPAP Instructors, North Carolina already has 9 certified instructors, and Georgia has 5. I'd say that should be sufficient to accomodate the demand, given the numbers of appraisers each of those states have. Heck, California, which has 3 times as many appraisers, only has 12 instructors at this time. Whatever their concerns are, it isn't going to be lack of qualified instructors. AI members might have to take a USPAP update from a non-Insitute instructor if they want to stay local, but that shouldn't pose any problems in the long run.

As for the test, all I can say is that it's in the course manual. Read it study it, know it; especially those flowcharts. When in doubt, the correct answer is (probably) "intended use/intended user".

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Gentlemen:

Do you know the current (latest) pass statistics?

I have an acquantance who failed first pass and was absolutely mortified. I am encouraging taking a second shot at it.... they thought the 'pass rate' was runing 80%, and I certainly get the idea that it is nowhere near that figure. If this person does drop out I amy take a shot at it :wink: I think there'd be room :p

Thank you!

Lee Ann
 

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When in doubt, the correct answer is (probably) "intended use/intended user". George Hatch

George,
You have me LMAO. I remember when it was, 'when in doubt choose C.'
 

Don Clark

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Lee Ann,

I would encourage you to take it. The pass rate is about 50%.

You will need 35 hours of classroom instruction as an instructor. The application is at
www.appraisalfoundation.org

Don
 

Rich Heyn

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Lee Ann:

I attended the class in early September. One of the instructors, Danny Wiley, (who did a great job) told us that the pass rate at that time was about 55%.

It was a great learning experience, but it was the toughest test I have ever taken. I passed, but I don't think it was by much. If you decide to go for it, call or e-mail me and I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

Rich Heyn
 

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Gentlemen,

Thank you! I have far too much on my plate at the moment to pursue this immediately, but I appreciate the encouragement. I find USPAP itself mildly interesting, and interpretations of the doc VERY interesting... With my tendency to get 'busted for minor trangressions of ANY rule', it behooves me to internalize any rule set by which I could be judged. :roll:

I will inform my friend that the actual pass rate is NOT the figure s/he was told!

Rich I greatly appreciate your offer! Are your office and other contact information the same since I took your Manufactured Housing class in Seattle a few years ago?

Danny Wiley IS a voice of reason, I took a class from him this summer and really learned a lot. I know there are folks who object to some of the recent changes, but I don't perceive all of them as being bad. I have USPAP manuals going back to initial disbursment of the doc, and it is pretty interesting to do a historical view once in a while ...
There are not enough emoticons to convey the range of emotions resultant from THAT statement :wink:
 

Rich Heyn

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Lee Ann:

Yes, the contact information has changed. You can e-mail me through this forum or you can call me at 269-422-1999.

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Rich

Congratulations on passing.

Don

Where do you get the information that NC will not be requiring USPAP in 2003? The rule making hearing Monday (14 October) has specific language mandating USPAP effective 1 July 2003.

Now I know those fine fellows at the NCAB do not like the feds (or anybody else) looking over their shoulder, but they are setting the rules in place to make it mandatory. I have heard that they are actively talking it up that they can not implement the program in time, but they are publically at least marching to the USPAP drummers.

Regards

Tom Hildebrandt GAA
 
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