The Appraisal Foundation And AI At It Again.

[Meandering]

People not understanding USPAP as a result of never reading the book is not the fault of the ASB.

And having spent a sizable portion of my adult life behind the podium teaching the course I can assure you that failure to read the first 33 pages of the book is by far the dominant reason for the number of appraisers who are "confused" about what they need in a basic appraisal assignment.

Call me cra-cra, but it's my assumption that the leadership at the AI are not among those who actually have problems understanding USPAP. And even of they were, they're in the business of selling QE and CE, so I'm a little surprised that they would think the process used to maintain and further refine USPAP was a problem to retire.

I'm trying to imagine the accounting profession or the architectural profession or the legal profession agitating to dismantle their respective standards boards.

No disagreement there.

they're in the business of selling QE and CE, so I'm a little surprised that they would think the process used to maintain and further refine USPAP was a problem to retire

yup just more interested parties,

Not much to do with "public trust".

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[Meandering]

I'm trying to imagine where the idea that the AI's motivation is to scuttle USPAP came from. Marion threw that one out there and like so much she "throws" out there, it took on a life of its own. .

No I did not.

Cite the post where I said anything about scuttling USPAP, or that it's the AI's motivation to scuttle USPAP.

Cite it

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[Pittsburgh Pete]

Try your post #16 (and #12) where your total confusion as to who does what and why takes flight!

 

[Meandering]

As well, there will always be people who complain about "boring, mundane, rehash" in one breath whilst complaining about "changes and hard to understand" in the next - as if the two levels of competency can possibly exist in the same individual at the same time.

I think you missed the point.

It's not about boring, mundane, or changes that are hard to understand, at all.

It's about why after more than 20 changes, they can't settle on the basics?

Why it has taken more than 20 changes and they're still refining what an appraisal is, who a client is, what appraisal results are, and what constitutes an appraisal report?

So if they think they know now, or finally got it right, what does that say about the millions of appraisal reports that were produced under the old definitions that "weren't right" until "this change" of definitions?

How can the public or anybody trust in anything that constantly changes the basics of what it is, or is not?

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[Meandering]

Post 12

AI is right, how can you have public trust when you change the USPAP every two years.

But when they were a part of TAF, there was a long period when they changed USPAP every year. So what's changed that now it's an issue for them?

Post 16
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Let me re-phrase then.

Why was there no letter about maintaining public trust, influenced by changing USPAP,

for all the years that USPAP had been changed every year,

and all the years the USPAP has been changed every two years,

which combined, has been more than 20 changes?

Why now is the appraiser organization addressing it?

What has changed, after more than 20 USPAP changes, that prompted this letter?

Why haven't any other "interested parities" addressed this issue over all the USPAP changes over all the previous years? Or even now, for that matter?

And I will add,

That in my opinion, and I have posted this several times,

It's freaking ridiculous to change the definition of what an appraisal is, in USPAP,

after all these years of states regulating what an appraisal is,

based on what USPAP says an appraisal is.
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I'm trying to imagine where the idea that the AI's motivation is to scuttle USPAP came from. Marion threw that one out there and like so much she "throws" out there, it took on a life of its own.
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neither post says anything about the AI scuttling USPAP.

You making it up as you go along also?

Oh I know, you are channeling this thread, where I still did not say what you espouse, but perhaps it's been a while since I've sent you an electronic hug.

So here is what you are thinking about
http://appraisersforum.com/forums/t...-national-appraiser-regulatory-system.207393/

and here is your hug

 

[Ken B]

People not understanding USPAP as a result of never reading the book is not the fault of the ASB.

And having spent a sizable portion of my adult life behind the podium teaching the course I can assure you that failure to read the first 33 pages of the book is by far the dominant reason for the number of appraisers who are "confused" about what they need in a basic appraisal assignment.

Call me cra-cra, but it's my assumption that the leadership at the AI are not among those who actually have problems understanding USPAP. And even of they were, they're in the business of selling QE and CE, so I'm a little surprised that they would think the process used to maintain and further refine USPAP was a problem to retire.

I'm trying to imagine the accounting profession or the architectural profession or the legal profession agitating to dismantle their respective standards boards.

I'm wondering where AI has ever shown any desire/effort/inclination to prevent/change/interfere with TAF performing those functions for which it was created by joint effort of a number professional appraisal organizations and for which it was congressionally authorized to perform pursuant to FIRREA.

Much like Candyman, such activity is mere urban legend. And much like yellow cake, useful to rile the masses when disinformation is needed to advance a cause or draw attention away from something that needs attention.

 

[factsandtruth]

At the AI is a new president elected every year?

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

At the AI is a new president elected every year?

Do you have any other irrelevant questions that we can address in one fell swoop?

 

[factsandtruth]

Thanks for the answer "pp"....

 

[factsandtruth]

It would be a big conflict of interest and cause all sorts of problems to let a "private run" organization run the appraisal industry...name one professional licensed industry that is ran and regulated by a "private company"??
Teachers, accountants, doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, agents?

How about the one above???