Tidewater Initiative Question?

[Calvin the Airedale]

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I have said this before:

The AF should encourage everyone to set the highest ethical standards of conduct, users and appraisers.

The VA and every other appraisal user should do all it can to avoid the appearance of any procedure the goal of which seems to direct the appraiser toward hitting a sale price, or anything other than an unbiased estimate of market value.

TI becomes an extra layer of hassle the practical effect of which is to discourage appraisers from straying too far from the sale price (because the hassle time is uncompensated).

Does it work this way for most VA appraisers? I don't know, but the fact that it tempts some to do so is enough to eliminate this TI.

TI is a matter if expedience that has outlived its usefulness. It was devised at a time when the VA was attempting to placate its lenders in competition with so many sub-prime alternatives. It is absolutely unnecessary in today's lending environment.

 

[nicholz12]

I have said this before:

The AF should encourage everyone to set the highest ethical standards of conduct, users and appraisers.

The VA and every other appraisal user should do all it can to avoid the appearance of any procedure the goal of which seems to direct the appraiser toward hitting a sale price, or anything other than an unbiased estimate of market value.

TI becomes an extra layer of hassle the practical effect of which is to discourage appraisers from straying too far from the sale price (because the hassle time is uncompensated).

Does it work this way for most VA appraisers? I don't know, but the fact that it tempts some to do so is enough to eliminate this TI.

TI is a matter if expedience that has outlived its usefulness. It was devised at a time when the VA was attempting to placate its lenders in competition with so many sub-prime alternatives. It is absolutely unnecessary in today's lending environment.

TI: Its shelf life is over... I Couldn't have said it better.

 

[Mike Garrett RAA]

USPAP a religion? Hardly. USPAP instructors priests? Not the ones I know. Seriously folks, such comments are degrading and immature. Walk a mile in our shoes before shooting off your mouth. The cadre, for the most part, are some of the most senior and well qualified appraisers in the industry.

 

[Calvin the Airedale]

USPAP a religion? Hardly. USPAP instructors priests? Not the ones I know. Seriously folks, such comments are degrading and immature. Walk a mile in our shoes before shooting off your mouth. The cadre, for the most part, are some of the most senior and well qualified appraisers in the industry.

You must have a pretty bad opinion of either religion or priests.

Lighten up, Francis!

 

[Mike Garrett RAA]

Quite the opposite after spending a year in school at the Abbey in Canon City.

 

[Calvin the Airedale]

Quite the opposite after spending a year in school at the Abbey in Canon City.

So explain how being called a religion or having its instructors called "priests" is degrading?

Your post used the term "cadre".

An interesting word:

Main Entry:cadre
Function:noun
Etymology:French, from Italian quadro, from Latin quadrum square — more at QUARREL
Date:1830
1 : FRAME, FRAMEWORK
2 : a nucleus or core group especially of trained personnel able to assume control and to train others; broadly : a group of people having some unifying relationship *a cadre of lawyers*
3 : a cell of indoctrinated leaders active in promoting the interests of a revolutionary party
4 : a member of a cadre

 

[nicholz12]

USPAP a religion? Hardly. USPAP instructors priests? Not the ones I know. Seriously folks, such comments are degrading and immature. Walk a mile in our shoes before shooting off your mouth. The cadre, for the most part, are some of the most senior and well qualified appraisers in the industry.

Yes, seriously, some of these comments are immature.

 

[Pittsburgh Pete]

USPAP a religion? Hardly. USPAP instructors priests? Not the ones I know. Seriously folks, such comments are degrading and immature. Walk a mile in our shoes before shooting off your mouth. The cadre, for the most part, are some of the most senior and well qualified appraisers in the industry.

?????????? Geez, some people won't let go of the Catholic church's scandal--is it now degrading to be called a priest?

Seriously--have often referred to USPAP as the appraiser's bible. It controls are activities and clues us in as to what is right and what is wrong.

It's a metaphor for goodness sake. Lighten up indeed!

 

[nicholz12]

That fact that my questions and observations were called:
1. pot shots 2. 'the blind leading the blind 3. Because I made a comment that perhaps Realtors should lobby for same treatment VA gets I am told that I am advocating for Realtors...
Yes, some of the comments extremely immature.
and, actually, I think I am owed an apology.

 

[Mr Rex]

USPAP a religion? Hardly. USPAP instructors priests? Not the ones I know. Seriously folks, such comments are degrading and immature. Walk a mile in our shoes before shooting off your mouth. The cadre, for the most part, are some of the most senior and well qualified appraisers in the industry.

While likely mostly true, there is an element that are in it for the money, with the ethics of a used car salesman with a gambling or drug habit. They got the USPAP instructor designation solely to make money as CE or pre-licensing instructors. I have met a few, and the sad thing is that they are trusted by the naive and ill informed. Sad, really sad.

Of course, with any select population, you have the good and the bad. The bad ones tend to stick in my mind more. I guess I'm just a little cynical. Preachers, priests, presidents, wannabe presidents, and yes USPAP instructors can count among their own those with situational ethical standards.