What will 2025 bring to the stock market?

[Terrel L. Shields]

HIGHER INTEREST RATES THANKS TO TRUMP.

Where? I want some.

 

[Charles West]

The long bond probably isn't going to move much given the private sector's demand for capital and the level of refinancing required for government debt. If we were headed for a recession, they would come down, but that isn't happening until Jerome gets a clue.

 

[Fernando]

More delusion, it hasn't changed since before Trump took office

But Moody rating has, downgrade under Trump. Just like I frowned upon and don't like potential tenants having low FICO score.

 

[Fernando]

MSN

Moody’s downgrade of U.S. debt sets stage for Monday unease​

Investors are bracing for a turbulent start to the week as markets reopen following Moody’s Ratings decision to strip the U.S. of its last remaining top-tier credit score, Bloomberg News reported Sunday. The move, announced late Friday, has reignited concerns over America’s rising debt burden and fiscal trajectory.

Yields on 10-year Treasuries rose to 4.49% in after-hours trading on Friday, and futures tracking the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock index (SP500) dipped 0.6%, hinting at nervous market sentiment heading into the week. Analysts expect long-term Treasury yields could rise further, potentially pushing the 30-year yield above 5%, levels not seen since late 2023.

EXPECT MORTGAGE RATES TO RISE. ANOTHER BAD YEAR FOR APPRAISERS.

 

[Gobears81]

EXPECT MORTGAGE RATES TO RISE. ANOTHER BAD YEAR FOR APAPPRAISERS.

I saw yesterday that they are currently near 20 year highs. Had a big surge in orders about a month ago but little since, so the high rates already seem to be working through.

Interested to see how much of a pullback the market gives for the debt downgrade. Seems to be something that should have been priced in already, but quite a few stocks are overvalued already. The health care and pharmaceutical stocks might be an exception, but I didnt have the stomach to take the plunge on UNH.

 

[Fernando]

I saw yesterday that they are currently near 20 year highs. Had a big surge in orders about a month ago but little since, so the high rates already seem to be working through.

Interested to see how much of a pullback the market gives for the debt downgrade. Seems to be something that should have been priced in already, but quite a few stocks are overvalued already. The health care and pharmaceutical stocks might be an exception, but I didnt have the stomach to take the plunge on UNH.

I can't believe UNH keeps plunging. How low can it go?

 

[glenn walker]

Nobody has believed the Moody and Fitch Bond rating services in my 40 years of trading. The U.S. only had a AAA and not rated junk because we can print money and we have a large military.

 

[Fernando]

Moody was last to downgrade US.
Those rating services have been too slow in downgrades. Market kind of knew.
Must be bad and unavoidable and now official.

 

[OSU Beavers]

 

[Gobears81]

I can't believe UNH keeps plunging. How low can it go?

I was thinking $225-230 would be an easy buy price, but will let it go if it doesn't get to that point