Where Do You Think "geographic Competency" Begins And Ends?

[djd09]

If it is a bastion of "kooks", what are you doing on it? What is D Wiley, OR Geroge Hatch, or Denis Desaix

Somebody needs to pour the kool aid that the non-kooks make.

The poll is flawed. More of the fast and cheap PR.

 

[DWiley]

When appraising in a new area, especially a far off region or state they have never even been in, how do they know the right questions to ask ? How do they know whether to take at face value an answer a RE agent provides, or how to evaluate certain data?

Would that not be discovered in the same way that the local appraiser discovered it? I mean, both appraisers (local and remote) do the majority of the research and analysis while sitting at a desk, not sitting in the road in front of the property?

 

[timd354]

500sq and a partywall. now what do i win?

close, but not quite correct....the correct answer is 500 sf and two party walls (unless the rowhouse happens to be an end unit)

 

[J Grant]

Obviously not everyone on here is kook, but there are a lot of kooks on here regularly posting crazy sh*t. As far as why I participate on the AF, I come here mainly for entertainment purposes, I don't have time to go to the zoo.

While there are a few good discussions that start out here every now and then, invariably virtually every good discussion thread gets completely ruined by a handful of the same kooks and idiots who make it virtually impossible to engage in any real, rational discussions of importance here, which is too bad, but it is what it is and is not going to change anytime soon.

I do agree there can be better monitoring of this board especially regarding comments becoming personal instead of staying on topic- which means a lot of your own posts would be flagged...lol

 

[J Grant]

I could have referred to the AF as the Jerry Springer Appraisers Forum, which several people I know in real life refer to it as, lol.

Let me ask you a serious question....do you really consider the discourse that typically takes place here on the AF to be serious and useful to the appraisal profession?

I find it actually scary that some new appraisers/trainees who don't know any better might actually believe some of the excessive amount of crap that gets posted here on a regular basis.

I happen to agree with you on this. The monitoring on this board is horrible to virtually non existent. I participate in pet bulletin boards with better monitoring. There are many useful and thoughtful threads and posts, the fact that some get derailed could be avoided, perhaps the board needs better volunteers to montitor threads and keep moving certain comments to a for entertainment only bin off the appraisal section, or to crack down and give six months time out to those posters who do nothing more than make snarkry comments. You can get a bit snarky yourself, but you do contribute a lot of knowledge and good content. I may not be blameless either,...

 

[J Grant]

Would that not be discovered in the same way that the local appraiser discovered it? I mean, both appraisers (local and remote) do the majority of the research and analysis while sitting at a desk, not sitting in the road in front of the property?

Not true at all, I gain a lot of knowledge driving around neighborhoods, walking properties, getting handed information and talking on site to RE agents, owners, agents, builders etc. The desk work feeds off the field work, it is not separate from it. The field work is cumulative over time to form a bank of experience and there is no substitute for it.

 

[Meandering]

Some of us have moved on from pony express and have cell phones and the internet to find things like that out. And no one knows if a neighbor is a nuisance unless you happen to find that out on the inspection or verification process.

So with your cell phone show me the headlines from the three newspapers that cover the neighborhood I'm in.

and note how long it will take you to find those three different headlines in three different news papers.

 

[TRESinc]

I don't see this as a poll just to explore the topic intellectually, it is the first gathering of data that a number of appraisers feel geo competency is not necessary, or not necessary under certain conditions- That can be used to used as evidence to open up a comment period from AQB, like the last period where certain vested interests are strongly motivated to send in comments, which can lead to a roll back of geo competency in practice as a lender requirement or means of selection.

conspiracy much? haven't read a single post that states that geocompetency is not necessary under any conditions, just that it is possible to obtain said competency if one were to put in the time and effort.

 

[J Grant]

conspiracy much? haven't read a single post that states that geocompetency is not necessary under any conditions, just that it is possible to obtain said competency if one were to put in the time and effort.

The poll results, with varying disagreement about competence in relation to geo regions , do not provide a "clear" answer, the fact that there is appraiser disagreement on the topic, as well as admission that in some opinions, geo competence is not necessary, can be used to further the agenda of removing geo competence as a lender requirement. Make of that what you will.

The question to ask if whether the large segment lender work with low fees and tight deadlines would in practice provide for the time and effort needed to gain competency .

 

[TRESinc]

close, but not quite correct....the correct answer is 500 sf and two party walls (unless the rowhouse happens to be an end unit)

well of course that is what i was referring to, the semi-detached version, which is where the semi-pregnant lady lives...

The poll results, with varying disagreement about competence in relation to geo regions , do not provide a "clear" answer, the fact that there is appraiser disagreement on the topic, as well as admission that in some opinions, geo competence is not necessary, can be used to further the agenda of removing geo competence as a lender requirement. Make of that what you will.

The question to ask if whether the large segment lender work with low fees and tight deadlines would in practice provide for the time and effort needed to gain competency .

who said geocompetency is not required? again, all i have seen is some people think if you don't live in a market you can't appraise in it while others post that if given enough time one can become geocompetent in any market, which is true. the steps in the appraisal process are the same no matter what. if you are appraising a colonial in new hampshire or a ranch in colorado, you still have to perform the same exact steps.

you are, like always, blaming everything n fees... again... fees, and lenders, have no bearing in this poll or thread. it was a simple question - Where Do You Think "geographic Competency" Begins And Ends. it did not ask about lenders or fees or turn time or location or the oddball house you come across once every 15 years or anything else people interjected into this thread.

got another newsflash for you - people disagree on virtually every topic on this board. always have, always will. it's human nature. get enough people together and someone will not like what someone else "knows" and will attempt to prove them wrong. it's nothing new, been happening since the dawn of time.