Will You Get The Vaccine?

[NachoPerito]

I don't want to be like insensitive about the topic but I am tired of COVID man. Tired of all this fear around it, tired of hearing about it, and tired of having to be politically correct about it. Social distancing, masks, whatever man. Look at the data none of that works. This whole COVID thing is a circus.

Of course things work, it is just a matter of the cost being worth the benefit. Regardless.... the title said 'no politics'

 

[Fernando]

Nightline said a reported rich person willing to pay $20,000 to get the vaccine from a private doctor to circumvent CDC orders.
And Lindsey Grahm and Rubio who downplayed vaccine earlier have gotten the vaccine.
So vaccine worth more more than gold.

 

[Joe Flacco]

Of course things work, it is just a matter of the cost being worth the benefit. Regardless.... the title said 'no politics'

Masks and social distancing do not work. You tell me how one person living in a house can get it and other people living in the house don't get it. The people that say of course it works say so for no other reason than the expert on TV said it works. Look at the data and facts man. Cases going up regardless majority has been wearing masks and social distancing. I guarantee you that it is not all the people not wearing masks getting COVID. It does not work. These "experts" don't know ****. Fully capable of forming my own opinions without somebody telling me what to believe.

 

[NachoPerito]

Masks and social distancing do not work. You tell me how one person living in a house can get it and other people living in the house don't get it. The people that say of course it works say so for no other reason than the expert on TV said it works. Look at the data and facts man. Cases going up regardless majority has been wearing masks and social distancing. I guarantee you that it is not all the people not wearing masks getting COVID. It does not work. These "experts" don't know ****. Fully capable of forming my own opinions without somebody telling me what to believe.

As long as you are acknowledging that you are ignoring science then there isn't much of a conversation to be had here.

 

[Fernando]

Masks and social distancing do not work. You tell me how one person living in a house can get it and other people living in the house don't get it. The people that say of course it works say so for no other reason than the expert on TV said it works. Look at the data and facts man. Cases going up regardless majority has been wearing masks and social distancing. I guarantee you that it is not all the people not wearing masks getting COVID. It does not work. These "experts" don't know ****. Fully capable of forming my own opinions without somebody telling me what to believe.

Some people don't wear their masks correctly. They cover their mouth but not their nose.
Yesterday I was taking out in restaurant and I had to sneeze into my masks.
I think I freaked out the cashier and me too.

 

[NachoPerito]

Masks and social distancing do not work. You tell me how one person living in a house can get it and other people living in the house don't get it. The people that say of course it works say so for no other reason than the expert on TV said it works. Look at the data and facts man. Cases going up regardless majority has been wearing masks and social distancing. I guarantee you that it is not all the people not wearing masks getting COVID. It does not work. These "experts" don't know ****. Fully capable of forming my own opinions without somebody telling me what to believe.

Here is the scientific brief on the CDC site if you are interested in the science behind it. It references some of the studies that have been done.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

The light is at the end of tunnel, wear a mask everyone, save grandma!

 

[Joe Flacco]

As long as you are acknowledging that you are ignoring science then there isn't much of a conversation to be had here.

The difference between you and me is not following science and ignoring science. You tell me how science explains four people living in a house with one person getting COVID and other people not. Please give me the scientific explanation. The difference between you and me is that you blindly believe what you are told and I can form my own opinions. I think these "experts" are too proud to say "I/we don't know". Maybe it's not pride and "I don't know" is just not an acceptable response and they had to say something. But whatever.

 

[NachoPerito]

The difference between you and me is not following science and ignoring science. You tell me how science explains four people living in a house with one person getting COVID and other people not. Please give me the scientific explanation. The difference between you and me is that you blindly believe what you are told and I can form my own opinions. I think these "experts" are too proud to say "I/we don't know". Maybe "I don't know" is not an acceptable response and they had to say something. But whatever.

You may have me confused for someone else. I try to follow the data and am inclined to trust scientific data. The data shows that masks work. It is not my job to analyze why you wouldn't believe the overwhelming data. I am sure you have your own reasons, but I wouldn't be public with them unless you see the flaws in the following:

• An investigation of a high-exposure event, in which 2 symptomatically ill hair stylists interacted for an average of 15 minutes with each of 139 clients during an 8-day period, found that none of the 67 clients who subsequently consented to an interview and testing developed infection. The stylists and all clients universally wore masks in the salon as required by local ordinance and company policy at the time.32
• In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.33
• A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34
• A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.35
• Investigations involving infected passengers aboard flights longer than 10 hours strongly suggest that masking prevented in-flight transmissions, as demonstrated by the absence of infection developing in other passengers and crew in the 14 days following exposure.36,37
• Seven studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,38 a German city,39 a U.S. state,40 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,41,42 as well as both Canada43 and the U.S.44 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies42,44 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.45 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.42

 

[NachoPerito]

sorry, @NP_MAI, I got wrapped up in a back and forth, I know you didn't intend this.

 

[George Hatch]

Just the fact that it's necessary to start a discussion about this off with a plea to not go political shows the extent to which the issue was weaponized for political effect.