Will You Get The Vaccine?

[Sadie]

This is not unexpected. People died during the vaccination trials. It's all part of the public policy decisions,, and It's considered an acceptable risk.

Fact check: Clarifying claims around Pfizer vaccine deaths and side effects | Reuters
Only two of the deaths were from recipients of the vaccine and those deaths were in line with the general population. The allergic reactions are the worrisome part for me.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

The allergic reactions are the worrisome part for me.

It's a choice. You have a small chance of anaphylaxis reaction and going into shock, perhaps dying. Or, you get Covid and have a small chance of developing a cytokine storm and perhaps dying.

 

[djd09]

Pfizer says its vaccine works against new strain of virus: report​

Pfizer said its coronavirus vaccine is effective against the new, more contagious strain of COVID-19 first seen in the U.K., Reuters reported Thursday night.

The study has not yet been peer-reviewed.

The mutation was first spotted in England in September, and its high rate of contagion quickly led to a sharp increase in cases there. It quickly spread to other nations.

The first case in the United States was diagnosed in Colorado in late December. It has since reached other states, including New York, where Gov. Andrew Cuomo warned of its danger as he praised hospitals for increasing the amount of vaccines distributed.

“U.K. strain, all bets are off, all equations are altered,” Cuomo said Thursday.

Pfizer says its vaccine works against new strain of virus: report

Pfizer said its coronavirus vaccine is effective against the new, more contagious strain of COVID-19 first seen in the U.K., Reuters reported Thursday night. The company cited a study it conducted …

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one vaccine for all

 

[Sadie]

Vaccine rollout hits snag as health workers balk at shots​

The desperately awaited vaccination drive against the coronavirus in the U.S. is running into resistance from an unlikely quarter: Surprising numbers of health care workers who have seen firsthand the death and misery inflicted by COVID-19 are refusing shots.

It is happening in nursing homes and, to a lesser degree, in hospitals, with employees expressing what experts say are unfounded fears of side effects from vaccines that were developed at record speed. More than three weeks into the campaign, some places are seeing as much as 80% of the staff holding back.

“I don’t think anyone wants to be a guinea pig,” said Dr. Stephen Noble, a 42-year-old cardiothoracic surgeon in Portland, Oregon, who is postponing getting vaccinated. “At the end of the day, as a man of science, I just want to see what the data show. And give me the full data.”

Vaccine rollout hits snag as health workers balk at shots

The desperately awaited vaccination drive against the coronavirus in the U.S. is running into resistance from an unlikely quarter: Surprising numbers of health care workers who have seen firsthand the death and misery inflicted by COVID-19 are refusing shots.

apnews.com

no data, no science, you mean they didn't test it yet?

It's a choice. You have a small chance of anaphylaxis reaction and going into shock, perhaps dying. Or, you get Covid and have a small chance of developing a cytokine storm and perhaps dying.

If you do do have an allergic reaction, at least you should get care almost immediately. Getting Covid is problematic because you don't know if you will get any long term affects or be asymptomatic, have just have a light case. It is very unpredictable and who knows who you will infect before you even know you have it? Its not a very good situation. Take the only partially tested vaccine or roll the dice with Covid? Personally, I am voting for the vaccine. My consolation is by the time I will be eligible, the vaccine should be well tested.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

at least you should get care almost immediately

If you live in the country miles from town...perhaps not so immediately. I understand that they are usually making you wait 30 minutes or so, but here they are doing the injection outside while you remain in your car. OK... But sometimes the reaction is delayed.

Most people with serious problems are developing Covid pneumonia and often have blood clots on their lung Xray. Even then they may not feel particularly bad, but their oxygen level eventually goes down and they feel poorly. I have a friend who still has the blood clots develop despite feeling fine. Tested negative even. 2nd test finally caught it. At first they thought his dehydration was from his heart.

And the Pfizer med is an mRNA vaccine, first of its kind. I am not keen on that. I want to see some time pass before I endorse that brand.

 

[J Grant]

I am allergic to certain weird things (fire ant bites among them ) one weird bug bite incident I collapsed on floor of a movie theater and people call the paramedics and they treated me right there, I carried an epi pen for years afterward don't have one anymore, I have subsequently had on three different occasions three allergic reactions to meds ..two to antibiotics one involved trip to ER and stayed there 8 hours , the other was I able to go to my DR office and get treated there, the other time I collapsed in DR office after getting a lidocaine injection for numbing ---l I am still alive (hello ! I am here to annoy people ) since I am writing this.

Each time after the anaphylaxis reaction I got administered epinephrine and steroids . I carry antihistamine chew tabs a few of those able to stave off worst till I can get treatment these days with so many walk in clinics easy to find.

I still intend to get the covid shot, and I will hang around for an hour afterward make sure I am having no reaction. I think the worst deaths from allergic reactions seem to be about a peanut or shellfish allergy or if a person is in a remote location not able to get any form of medical help. Despite the risk It is worth it to me to get this vaccine because one or two times post vaccine waiting around for monitoring to make sure I do not have a reaction is worth then having months or year /however long it lasts immunity from symptomatic covid...of course the vaccines are about 95 % effective so if we are among the 5% well I still will take those odds...

 

[Sadie]

If you live in the country miles from town...perhaps not so immediately. I understand that they are usually making you wait 30 minutes or so, but here they are doing the injection outside while you remain in your car. OK... But sometimes the reaction is delayed.

Most people with serious problems are developing Covid pneumonia and often have blood clots on their lung Xray. Even then they may not feel particularly bad, but their oxygen level eventually goes down and they feel poorly. I have a friend who still has the blood clots develop despite feeling fine. Tested negative even. 2nd test finally caught it. At first they thought his dehydration was from his heart.

And the Pfizer med is an mRNA vaccine, first of its kind. I am not keen on that. I want to see some time pass before I endorse that brand.

Hmm driving home and having a reaction is not too safe. The Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine is a more traditional vaccine that might be more appealing to some people. But, it still needs approval in the US.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

I collapsed in DR office after getting a lidocaine injection for numbing

For years I would faint in the dentist chair usually about a minute or two after the shot. They put two extra things with the Novocaine (the dentists no longer use Novocaine) - one being a product to restrict blood flow so that the numbness lasts longer. The other is a heart stimulant due to the restrictor. Anyway that's what my doctor figured out. So he used only straight Novocaine and worked faster. Never fainted since. It was that unexpected rush to my heart that caused the fainting. Today they use other pain killers that don't need the same mix he was using. And I rarely need a shot of any kind for a filling as my teeth are so shot that they are all hollow shells full of fillings.

 

[J Grant]

For years I would faint in the dentist chair usually about a minute or two after the shot. They put two extra things with the Novocaine (the dentists no longer use Novocaine) - one being a product to restrict blood flow so that the numbness lasts longer. The other is a heart stimulant due to the restrictor. Anyway that's what my doctor figured out. So he used only straight Novocaine and worked faster. Never fainted since. It was that unexpected rush to my heart that caused the fainting. Today they use other pain killers that don't need the same mix he was using. And I rarely need a shot of any kind for a filling as my teeth are so shot that they are all hollow shells full of fillings.

I feel you - I do not faint now from dentist novacaine but I had gotten several lidocaine shots for a skin cancer removal and it was just too much for my system - the Dr was so freaked out more than I was lol

 

[Dublin ohio]

Well Uncle Joe has decided to throw a wrench into the works. He has decided that when he takes office. He will release all of the vaccine to the states. Shows he knows nothing about how the current vaccines work. It is going to be a major cluster.