Wood burning stove in garage

[Terrel L. Shields]

I know my insurance company didn't like a woodstove flue in my garage but it was used in the office side not the garage, but I took it out and covered over the hole so they are happy now.

Yes, storing gasoline in the same place as a wood stove is not smart, but I have seen many a commercial garage with wood burning stoves.

 

[Mike Kennedy]

No local code for existing dwellings in effect. No BP/CO required prior to 2006.

Governing Municipality?

Although this Pennsylvania case cites a wood burning stove in a house, certain aspects are probably relevant:

17. The defendants, however, some time in 1976 purchased a woodburning stove, installed it, and first used it during the fall of 1977 (Tr. p.26).
18. The defendants' wood­burning stove was manufactured in Norway, and therefore was not manufactured to meet any U.S. standards or specifications (Tr. p.37).
19. The defendants' wood­burning stove has never been certified by any United States federal agency (such as the Environmental Protection Agency) for use within the United States (Tr. p.37).

31. The defendant's practice of "banking" his wood­burning stove before going to work has the effect of increasing the amount of certain natural air contaminants contained in wood smoke, such as carbon monoxide and particulate matter (Tr. p.384­386) (See also Tr. p.313, 322 where defendants' own expert report refers to the contents of wood smoke as "contaminants").
32. Some of the contents of wood smoke, such as PNAs, are recognized as potential causes of lung cancer (Tr. p.319).
33. One of the other contents of wood smoke, particulate matter, are microscopic particles that are invisible and can enter a person's home from the outside even with the doors and windows shut (Tr. p.259­260).
34. Exposure to carbon monoxide can cause headaches, and exposure to wood smoke generally can produce negative health impacts (Tr. p.258­259).
35. The defendant himself, from his own readings on the subject of wood smoke, acknowledges that inhaling wood smoke can be unfavorable to own's health (Tr. p.68).
36. In particular, the defendant has acknowledged that wood smoke contains small, invisible particles that can be harmful (Tr. p. 68).

http://www.burningissues.org/car-www/legal/penn-court.htm

Is the Garage wood stove listed on the owner's insurance policy?


Pennsylvania State Code 2009 http://www.bookmarki.com/State-Building-Codes-s/71.htm

 

[JTip]

A wood burning stove is something that does not turn on automatically

It's not the turning on part that's the issue. Once the burner gets hot, it stays hot for a long time. If you spill some gas on the garage floor there is no plug to pull or switch to turn off the wood burner.

 

[Mike Garrett RAA]

I have lived in my present house for a little more than 9 years and have yet to spill any gas on the floor. Also have a friend who has a detached garage that he uses as a shop for brake repair and other light jobs. It has a stove in the garage for heat.

Comment on what you saw and let the underwriter deal with it.

 

[incognito]

Mike gives good advice. Why are you inventing all of these "possible" scenarios where an open flame MAY ignite a fire from "gasoline fumes". This isn't the 1940's, and even reasonably modern lawnmowers and motorcycles don't regularly leak gasoline. Certainly cars do not. Additionally, unless it is extremely hot, and extremely dry, and the garage has virtually NO ventilation, gasoline vapors from minor leaks just do not present much of a hazard. Is it unreasonable to expect that a homeowner may smoke in the garage? How is this any different then a WBS in a garage?

Do you see it in 4150.2? I don't. So unless you intend to CB4 every house you do because the homeowner/buyer is a smoker and may smoke in the garage, find better things to concern yourself with!

 

[nicholz12]

well then, if we are not 'home inspectors' why does VA want us to report anything that is not safe, sanitary or sound... i.e. hand rails on 3+ risers.

 

[incognito]

well then, if we are not 'home inspectors' why does VA want us to report anything that is not safe, sanitary or sound... i.e. hand rails on 3+ risers.

Well Nicholz, I would respond to you:

-What does VA have to do with anything in this thread? The OP is asking about FHA

-The 3 S's are Safe, Sound, and Secure. Sanitary is not one... (VA and FHA)

-My 2011 VA manual makes NO mention of hand rails in stairs being required...

-FHA states that missing handrails are no longer a mandatory MPR repair.


So, Nicholz, what do you base and back your statement with?

 

[nicholz12]

home inspector comment was mentioned previously

Well Nicholz, I would respond to you:

-What does VA have to do with anything in this thread? The OP is asking about FHA

-The 3 S's are Safe, Sound, and Secure. Sanitary is not one... (VA and FHA)

-My 2011 VA manual makes NO mention of hand rails in stairs being required...

-FHA states that missing handrails are no longer a mandatory MPR repair.


So, Nicholz, what do you base and back your statement with?

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re - handrails, VA Manchester NH Review appraiser called me on an appraisal I did in Dec 2010- said I forgot to mention that stairs did not have hand rails - stairs had 5 risers, (should have been MPR subject to)

re - safe, sound, sanitary - Printed booklet I received in seminar from
VA Manchester NH regional office - states: 'in existing and new construction cases, the MPRs provide a basis for determining that the property is safe, sound and sanitary'.

thanks,

 

[VegasWayne]

I don't have a wood burning stove in my garage but I do have a MIG welder. Do I have to do all of my welding at least 18" off the ground?

 

[incognito]

re - handrails, VA Manchester NH Review appraiser called me on an appraisal I did in Dec 2010- said I forgot to mention that stairs did not have hand rails - stairs had 5 risers, (should have been MPR subject to)

re - safe, sound, sanitary - Printed booklet I received in seminar from VA Manchester NH regional office - states: 'in existing and new construction cases, the MPRs provide a basis for determining that the property is safe, sound and sanitary'.

Tell him you want to see the stair rail issue in writing in a CURRENT official VA handbook. He won't have it.

I will acquiesce on the VA description of MPRs, But FHA is Safe, Sound, Secure.

None the less, the OP was speaking clearly about FHA. VA guidelines/rules are irrelevent...