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Wonder if science "boy" with a small "b" understands 72 times (x) + y is greater than y? :)

When you add more greenhouse gas that is 72 times more potent than CO2, the sum of methane and CO2 is a lot more than just CO2 alone, isn't it?

So for every methane molecule emitted, that is equivalent to 72 molecules of CO2. So 2.78 molecules of methane equals 200 molecules of CO2.

Do the math Pete, how many methane molecules is equivalent to 400 ppm, the current level of CO2 in the atmosphere?

hint: the methane gas well is emitting 50,000 kilograms of methane gas per hour. How long will it take to be the equivalent of the current CO2 concentration in the atmosphere? How much global temperature rise will occur?
 
The leak from the fifth-largest underground gas storage facility in the US was releasing 58 metric tons of methane an hour, according to preliminary estimates from the California Air Resources Board.

It's the climate change equivalent of adding 7 million cars to the road.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environmen...-undermines-California-s-climate-change-plans

Not to worry, according science "boy" with a small "b". :)
 
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At an estimated emission rate of 50,000 kg of methane per hour, it will have the same impact over the next 20 years as emitting nearly 3 million metric tons of carbon dioxide per month.

http://blogs.edf.org/californiadrea...-the-gigantic-ongoing-gas-leak-in-california/
 
The photovoltaic cell was developed in 1954, how much longer will it take Pete? Seems most of the solar advancements could be attributed to global warming.:rof:

I know some believe that free energy is another inalienable right, like emmigrating to the United States. :rolf:


Have no Idea who believes such things but some will denigrate anyone at anytime to further their hobby! :rof:

Never realized you were from an American Indian heritage!
 
The leak from the fifth-largest underground gas storage facility in the US was releasing 58 metric tons of methane an hour, according to preliminary estimates from the California Air Resources Board.

It's the climate change equivalent of adding 7 million cars to the road.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environmen...-undermines-California-s-climate-change-plans

Not to worry, according science "boy" with a small "b". :)

Sorry Duncan, never said that and never thought that. I guess you assumed--reference that old expression! :rof:

Hope you allowed yourself a hint of hope on Christmas before diving back into your unrelenting negativity! Hope is the focal point of the occasion after all.

But after all, climate change doesn't exist.
 
Have no Idea who believes such things but some will denigrate anyone at anytime to further their hobby! :rof:

Never realized you were from an American Indian heritage!

I don't recall the Natives forming The United States. Maybe in your history classes it was different? Or are you citing some left wing revised history texts?

You must have missed the Leahy Amendment vote, I know, so much to ruin and so little time.
 
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"Before the blowout, the Gold King Mine was leaking 206 gallons of acidic, metals-laden but mostly clear water per minute in 2010, 140 gpm in 2011, 13 in August 2014 and 112 in September 2014, just before EPA first began working at the mine portal. On August 5, 2015, it flash-flooded more than 3,000,000 gallons of turmeric-orange, toxic-sludge-laden pollution.

The mine is now leaking 500-900 gallons per minute: 720,000 to 1,300,000 gallons per day - a huge increase in pollution into these important waterways. Until winter set in, most of it was finally being treated before entering Cement Creek, the Animas River and downstream waters.

....Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell testified before Congress on a toxic spill that federal and state agencies unleashed into western state rivers last August. Supervised by officials from the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Colorado Division of Reclamation, Mining and Safety (DRMS), an Environmental Restoration (ER) company crew excavated tons of rock and debris that had blocked the portal (entrance or adit) to the Gold King Mine above Silverton, Colorado.

The crew kept digging until the remaining blockage burst open, spilling 3,000,000 gallons of acidic water laden with iron, lead, cadmium, mercury and other heavy metals. The toxic flood contaminated the Animas and San Juan Rivers, all the way to Lake Powell in Utah. EPA then waited an entire day before notifying downstream mayors, health officials, families, kayakers, fishermen, farmers and ranchers that the water they were drinking, paddling in, or using for crops and livestock was contaminated.

Ms. Jewell told Congress she was unaware of anyone being fired, fined or even demoted. In fact, federal investigations and reports didn't hold anyone responsible for the disaster. (Maybe they even got bonuses.) Considering the spill's severity, the gross incompetence of government officials, their advance knowledge of the dangers, and the way they downplayed and whitewashed their actions, this is intolerable.

EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy did say she was "absolutely, deeply sorry." But then FEMA denied disaster relief to the Navajos, and EPA sent them emergency water tanks contaminated with oil! "

http://www.familysecuritymatters.or.../governments-gold-king-whitewash?f=must_reads
 
A new report from Environment America Research and Policy Center finds that industry discharged 226 million pounds of toxic chemicals into America's rivers and streams in 2010. The pollution included dead-zone-producing nitrates from food processors, mercury and other heavy metals from steel plants, and toxic chemicals from various kinds of refineries. Within the overall waste, the researchers identified 1.5 million pounds of carcinogens, 626,000 pounds of chemicals linked to developmental disorders and 354,000 pounds of those associated with reproductive problems. It's important to note that the vast majority—if not all—of these releases are perfectly legal. "All discharges meet permit requirements," Cargill said. "This is a natural process that is fully licensed, and included as part of our wastewater discharge reporting," echoed McCain Foods.
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/03/top-10-polluted-rivers-waterways

Download the study here:

CLEAN WATER BILL PASSED BY HOUSE OVER REAGAN VETO
February 4, 1987


President George H.W. Bush administration in 1989
No net loss as a goal for wetland's policy was recommended in 1987 at the National Wetlands Policy Forum and was first adopted by President George H.W. Bush administration in 1989. The policy, which represented compromise between development and conservation, was grounded on the needs to protect the wetlands by creating and restoring the wetlands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_net_loss_wetlands_policy

Clinton assails GOP changes in Clean Water Act
May 31, 1995


Bush Administration Approves Most Damaging Change to Clean Water Act in Decades May 3, 2002

New Bush Policy Weakens Clean Water Act, Threatens Nation's Waters
April 2003

Under new EPA rule, Clean Water Act protections will cover all active tributaries
MAY 27, 2015

Politics are the essence of the environment we live in. Nothing more, nothing less.


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Science "boy" with a small "b", here are some calculations for you to consider since you think methane is too small in relationship to CO2.

First, the updated IPCC GWP (global warming potential):

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The global warming potential of methane is 84 times that of CO2 for a 20 year period after release. Think about that science "boy" with a small "b", one molecule of methane is equivalent to 84 molecules of carbon dioxide according the latest IPCC estimates.


Now for the current levels of methane in the atmosphere:


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The current concentration of methane in the atmosphere is about 1.85 ppm. The current concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 400 ppm. If we multiple 1.85 times 84 we get about 155 ppm equivalent concentration of CO2. That translates into 28% of the global warming is caused by methane. And, methane is increasing faster than CO2 in percentages.
 
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