Are Staff Appraisers paid customary and reasonable fees?

[Ariba]

You are one twisted individual and maybe sober up

To quote Glen "time to move on as you lost all credibility"

 

[glenn walker]

To quote Glen "time to move on as you lost all credibility"

Adios- Hasta La Vista -Bye-Bye-Please go give some bad appraisal advice in the Tiny Home Thread LMAO

 

[glenn walker]

Jeffery no joke I have read their entire manifesto and its almost identical to your so called Socialist Libertarian ideologies. I would rather see you come out of the closet and at least join a group who share your ideals and who can help advance you cause. It takes power in numbers to make change. ​

Welcome to Chicago -Communist Party-Libertarian Socialists Are Welcome​

John Bechtel is CPUSA District Organizer of Illinois.

Good morning comrades!

Who would have thought it? Of all the places the reds could have met in Chicago and we choose the Red Lacquer Room! We couldn't have planned it any better!

On behalf of all the comrades from Illinois, welcome to Chicago! Welcome delegates and guests and members of the Young Communist League from across this beautiful country. Welcome to the Windy City! A very special and warm welcome to the comrades from our sister parties who have traveled so far in solidarity – this is your home. Much has changed since Carl Sandburg penned those immortal lines and in the one hundred years since Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle and the Wobbliers was founded here.

The stockyards, killing floors and packing houses are silent. The giant steel mills and garment shops are still. But Chicago remains a magnificent center of working class struggle and culture, a place where every race and nationality have converged, where scores of languages are spoken, where the rhythms of blues, jazz, salsa, rock, Mariachi and Polka intermingle and blood, sweat and tears flow together. This is the story of our multi-racial, multi-national working class and people in the face of every cunning and despicable effort by the ruling class to divide us.

 

[RCA]

Removed.

 

[RCA]

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Here's the primary reason collectivism will not become dominant In America - it is unfeasible unless/until everyone or almost everyone in the group is participating. Opt-in participation isn't viable in a collective society. And you cannot tolerate a setup where people who are in the group but who opt out have the ability to thrive at their own hand. You MUST force them to participate, whether you do that by social coercion or political or legal coercion. Which is one reason that Bernie got kicked out of the communes he lived in. They couldn't tolerate the slacker.

If collectivism was economically or socially viable in America you'd see a lot more functioning collectives operating on the voluntary opt-in basis. None of the communes Bernie lived in or visited lasted for more than a few years. Meanwhile this here is still America - everyone still has the freedom to try again, only this time with REAL socialism. If they really wanted to. The capitalists don't need them and don't care what they do. "If you won't there are plenty of other people who will." By choice.

Even someone who is living incongruously with their values like you will recognize this on at least some level.

Collectivism is everywhere in the US. But, yes it is only partial. That can be said of a lot of countries.

1. Haveing a shared set of common laws is a form of collectivism.
2. Having a political system is also a form of collectivism
3. Throw in the infrastructure built and maintained by the government, welfare, medicare and the like.

Communism - and you will always get arguments on the details here - is essentially sharing the "fruits of production" equally among all. That does not work - because we know what happens in such a system - a few people do all the work and many others goof off. It just doesn't work.

Collectivism in various forms is absolutely needed. We can't function as a society without it.

Zelensky's "Servants to the People Party" and Trump's "Drain the Swamp" rhetoric are examples of a reaction to a breakdown of the collectivist system - when elected legislators break their social contract to represent and manage the social infrastructure for the people who elected them to office.

When the legislators lose awareness of that social contract and what it means, when they start to group together as one or more entities with a set of goals distinct from the needs of those who elected them to power, then they will inevitably break that social contract. At some point, the population they should represent may need to fire them. But how do you fire Democrats - if they have finissed control of the ballot box through various means? The only way is to revolt - brutally - to bring out the guillotine and start to work. That is of course illegal, insurrection or sedition. So, what sometimes needs to be done is problematic. A certain threshold of grievance has to be reached before action can be safely taken.

And what about the future, the world of robot police, millions upon millions, everywhere? Revolt will then be impossible.

And wouldn't you know:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/china-communist-party-police-stations/2022/09/15/id/1087718/

 

[George Hatch]

Scale counts. You can achieve a high level of consensus and conformity in a (very) small group of people who share such values. That justifies and enables the more comprehensive level of control over their actions. You can demand/get more conformity with the members of your household than you can with your neighbors in your neighborhood.

The bigger and more diverse the group, the less consensus there will be insofar as the exactly what comprises the common interests. By the time you get to maybe 50,000 people the elements most people will agree upon gets reduced to a very few essentials. So a religious group of 500 or 1000 people in S/E Utah might conform to a very restrictive set of values and conduct but as that group grows in number and diversity the level of dissent and non-compliance will naturally occur. The group's choice at that point is to either drop some of the specifics that drive the dissent or apply pressure - up to and including excommunication - to coerce conformity.

Here in America, most people agree that certain services are sufficiently necessary that they'll cede that authority and expectation to the federal and state govts. But that consensus drops as more and different types of services are considered. That's not an expression of good/evil, but of fundamental human nature. By the time push comes to shove, my neighbor's interests will ALWAYS be subordinate to those of my family.

 

[Ariba]

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[Ariba]

Jeffery no joke I have read their entire manifesto and its almost identical to your so called Socialist Libertarian ideologies. I would rather see you come out of the closet and at least join a group who share your ideals and who can help advance you cause. It takes power in numbers to make change. ​

Welcome to Chicago -Communist Party-Libertarian Socialists Are Welcome​

John Bechtel is CPUSA District Organizer of Illinois.

Good morning comrades!

Who would have thought it? Of all the places the reds could have met in Chicago and we choose the Red Lacquer Room! We couldn't have planned it any better!

On behalf of all the comrades from Illinois, welcome to Chicago! Welcome delegates and guests and members of the Young Communist League from across this beautiful country. Welcome to the Windy City! A very special and warm welcome to the comrades from our sister parties who have traveled so far in solidarity – this is your home. Much has changed since Carl Sandburg penned those immortal lines and in the one hundred years since Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle and the Wobbliers was founded here.

The stockyards, killing floors and packing houses are silent. The giant steel mills and garment shops are still. But Chicago remains a magnificent center of working class struggle and culture, a place where every race and nationality have converged, where scores of languages are spoken, where the rhythms of blues, jazz, salsa, rock, Mariachi and Polka intermingle and blood, sweat and tears flow together. This is the story of our multi-racial, multi-national working class and people in the face of every cunning and despicable effort by the ruling class to divide us.

Glen of the rails once again and forgot to take his medicine. Probably working on his own manifesto in his mother's basement. I am at a loss as to what this post has to do with this thread

"Are Staff Appraisers paid customary and reasonable fees?"

Adios- Hasta La Vista -Bye-Bye-Please go give some bad appraisal advice in the Tiny Home Thread LMAO

Kinda, like your tiny brain. Oh, I'm sorry you are probably all familiar with tiny and/or manufactured houses as you live in one.

Fair question, do you have a life outside of this forum? 872 posts so far this month no matter the subject.

To quote Glen "time to move on as you lost all credibility"

 

[JeffSH]

"The current system" is constantly evolving. The point of balance between personal interests vs collective interests is constantly on the move.
The pushback against "progressive" ideology is only just beginning. It's going to get a lot worse for your kind before it gets better. At least some of the feminists will eventually surrender to their biology and and the desire to bear children to raise. At which point their other needs will also kick in to nest and feather their nests and set themselves up for family life in their old age. That will require considerable resources, which the only way to obtain those resources is to sell out to the reality of having to work to survive. And to find a mate (of whatever of the 57 genders there are) to help them attain or otherwise give them those resources. Whether voluntarily or via the family courts which have been established to service the feminine imperatives.

Here's the primary reason collectivism will not become dominant In America

IDK what history you've been looking at but conservatives are the ones who stand in front of social progress. All of the arguments being made against trans people were made against gay people. In 10 years nobody will care, and the ones that do will be labelled as bigots. Just like with gay marriage. Just like with interracial marriage, just like with women's rights....

Collectivism just makes sense for so many issues. Collectivism saves lives. The USA comes around eventually and it will on socialism too. European countries banned interior lead paint in the early 1900s. France, Belgium and Austria in 1909. The Capitalists and conservative politicians in America knew it was unsafe, but they were against the ban. Profits over people in the USA. Rugged individualism! I want to paint my baby's crib with lead paint and who are you to tell me otherwise?

 

[glenn walker]

The Problem is Jeffry Hijacked the original OP Post

The OP Question - Are Staff Appraisers paid customary and reasonable fees?​

Jeffery-Hijacked that and turned into his personnel life experience work in as a AMC reviewer. The he went full blower into his Libertarion Social Warrior politics, That would be fine but it had no place in this thread , He should have opened his own thread in the Water Cooler Thread but, he knows he has been warned , to not turn threads into his political ideology's.

The poor OP never stood a chance on getting a answer about C & R Fees. His Libertarion Socialist rants need to go into the water cooler as they are no longer relative to the OP original post . I believe, opinions need to be heard but " Appraisal Question" Threads do not need to be turned political anymore . Myself and some others got caught into his trap, but I now realize his methods of , getting his politics into others the threads have become systemic









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