All Solar, Et Al, In 12 Years?

[stripes]

I read the article you posted, I just ignore the rhetoric ... too bad you can't read more, there's nothing I said that isn't true. The UK is committed to alternative energies and leads the European countries in solar implementation. Hey, Germany is ending their gov't subsidies too!! Yeah, just like UK, there's no need ... very successful. I could post links, but you'll never read ... just say something stupid that'll be liked by Marion and in turn, she'll post something stupid that Randy will like and so on and so on and so on .... but the post and like counts are climbing ... I know you two can beat Terrell .... can't you?

 

[Meandering]

Do you need some Grannny loving, Stripes? Here you go

Don't be upset that Randolph and I agree on many issues. I agree with lots of posters and what they post. But now I'll make it a special point to look for what you've posted to see if I agree, like, can add to, or just disagree. Okay?

Germany the UK and even here, the "cost" has not fallen, and even though European countries are producing more renewable energies, that energy is not, for the most part from homeowners.

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[stripes]

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Nice try for you Stripes.

Cost of solar is dropping.

That's only the costs of the panels, helped along by China's currency devaluation.

However the "cost of solar" has not dropped, but rather has increased due to a lack of energy storage capacity, an over supply into the grid that can't store it, and the need for a rampant ramping up and down of the existing electrical generation plants that can't ramp up or down as quickly as clouds pass over head.

If you are going to talk about the "cost" talk about the entire "cost" not just the cost to a homeowner.

if a homeowner installs solar panels, do you really think the motivation is to sell excess electric to the grid? no, it's to eliminate their need for coal/gas/nuclear fired electric plants. you see, if a homeowner creates an oversupply, they've satisfied their needs ... all the while, do their part to save this precious planet. like they used to say back in the day .. it's a win-win

please break down the entire cost for me ... it's been pointed out to me here that I've got reading and comprehension problems ... maybe you can help me

 

[Meandering]

Here you go Stripes,

Australian scientists announce solar energy breakthrough

Australian scientists said Monday they had made a breakthrough in increasing the efficiency of solar panels, which they hope could eventually lead to cheaper sources of renewable energy.

In what the University of New South Wales described as a world first, the researchers were able to convert more than 40 percent of sunlight hitting the panels into electricity.

"This is the highest efficiency ever reported for sunlight conversion into electricity," UNSW Professor Martin Green said in a statement.

"We used commercial solar cells, but in a new way, so these efficiency improvements are readily accessible to the solar industry."

While traditional methods use one solar cell, which limits the conversion of sunlight to electricity to about 33 percent, the newer technology splits the sunlight into four different cells, which boosts the conversion levels, Green told AFP.

The record efficiency level was achieved in tests in Sydney and replicated at the United States government's National Renewable Energy Laboratory, the university said.

The prototype technology is set to be harnessed by Australian company RayGen Resources for solar power towers, which use sun-tracking mirrors to focus sunlight on a tall building. (That's the system that sets birds on fire in mid flight)

Green is hopeful the technology can also eventually be used for solar panels mounted on people's roofs, which he said currently had a 15 to 18 percent efficiency rate.

"The panels that you have on the roof of your home, at the moment they just have a single cell but eventually they'll have several different cells... and they'll be able to improve their efficiency to this kind of level," he told AFP.

Green said strides in technology made in the solar industry such as the higher conversion levels were helping to drive down the cost of renewable energy.

He was confident that in a decade solar-generated electricity would be cheaper than that produced by coal.

But we won't have anymore birds!!!!!!!

green peace, green peace, green peace.


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[Meandering]

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if a homeowner installs solar panels, do you really think the motivation is to sell excess electric to the grid? no, it's to eliminate their need for coal/gas/nuclear fired electric plants. you see, if a homeowner creates an oversupply, they've satisfied their needs ... all the while, do their part to save this precious planet. like they used to say back in the day .. it's a win-win

please break down the entire cost for me ... it's been pointed out to me here that I've got reading and comprehension problems ... maybe you can help me

Did you see the article I posted yesterday, or the day before, that you are not allowed to produce more than what you need, as a homeowner, because then you become subject to commercial regulations? Did you see it? Or should I repost it?

Save the planet, Drink the Kool aid. The earth will flick us off like fleas when it is tired of us.

How much carbon emission are your solar panels saving the plant from when thousands of acres of forest burn in the west and northwest every year?

One volcano eruption, and you have saved the planet from nothing. Nada, zilch.

Your solar panels are boosting GPD numbers, all you're saving is Washington face, and actually,

Look up Jimmy Carters speech, April 1977 and see that according to Washington, in 1977 we only had two decades of oil reserves left GLOBABLLY. Four decades later we have a glut of supply.... Jimmy Carter's solar panels did not save the world from anything, and neither will these.

Kool aid.



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[Randolph Kinney]

if a homeowner installs solar panels, do you really think the motivation is to sell excess electric to the grid?

What Really Motivates Consumers to Install Residential Solar?

The same thing that motivates most buying decisions: price, reliability, and price.

What stops you from calling a solar installer and getting panels on your roof?

SolarTech, working with San Jose State University, performed a survey of consumer perceptions about solar and came up with some not-so-surprising results. The survey polled 163 single-family residence owners in Santa Clara County, California to analyze their attitudes on solar. Santa Clara County is deep in Silicon Valley and a bellwether county in a bellwether state.

In a bit of a warning sign for the industry, only 6 percent of respondents were intent on making a purchase in the next year. Furthermore, 83 percent saw their purchase of a solar installation as being two years or more in the future.

The "Level One" items crucial to the buying decision were price, reliability, warranty, customer service and financial incentives. Lower on the list were installation ease, return policy, aesthetic appeal, and modular design. Interestingly, at the bottom of the list were financing options and zero-down loans.

88 percent of the respondents believe that solar panels are good for the environment but affordability and reliability remain a perception issue. The residential solar industry has some enormous challenges ahead in marketing and getting past the early adopters and innovators and reaching the early majority of potential solar roofs.

http://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...ivates-Consumers-to-Install-Residential-Solar



How much does a solar system cost these days?

It is quite clear from the chart how big the price cut was, and that's for a complete system without reducing the cost for the customer after applying the incentives and tax breaks homeowners gets from their respective states. While these vary from state to state, in many of them, it is now so lucrative, that solar powered homes make a lot of sense.

Let's take a look at a typical 5KW system installation and savings of a Los Angeles home in California.

An average cost for 5KW of system will cost you around $20K to install. (Panels, labor, connections etc.). This is just our starting point. Now we need to subtract the incentives and solar federal tax breaks as follows: Subtract the rebate you'll receive for each KW, which is totaled at $3750.

Now we need to subtract the federal solar tax credit at an amazing 30% to reduce the bill by another $4875 dollars. That brings your total savings to $8625 dollars!

So, all of a sudden, a $20K investment turns to $11,375. That is almost half of the original cost, and that's big.

One of the main reasons people tend to not get very excited about the prospect of installing a solar energy system to their home is their perception of the costs involved. The truth is, over the long term, a solar energy system will pay for itself, and will actually generate you money in the form of lower utility bills, tax incentives, and selling back a proportion of the energy you produce but do not use to utilities companies.

How much you stand to make depends upon where in the US you live, how much sunshine you typically see, and how electricity costs you. Naturally, the more money you pay for your energy supply (tier 4 is $0.40 per kw-hr in San Diego), the more money you will save when you switch to solar.

http://www.solar-nation.org/how-much-does-a-solar-system-cost-these-days

Pre-paying your electricity bill for 10+ years even with tax rebates and net metering (selling back surplus power to the utility at the same price they sell it to you). The larger the solar system, the more savings generated. It is all about the money. San Diego has the highest electricity price in the nation. The push is on to eliminate net metering.


Across U.S., many utilities are battling net metering

Aug 28, 2015

Net metering, which allows customers to sell excess electricity back to their local utility, was created in the 1990s and became a key component in launching the solar industry, especially for homes and small business.

But in some ways, the practice is under attack as the boom in solar power makes it more expensive for local utilities.

In Arizona, for example, state utility commissions have imposed a $50 monthly fee for customers who use net metering, and Nevada may follow suit. Wisconsin has also imposed a monthly fee, which faces legal opposition.

A report from the North Carolina Clean Energy Technology Center says that 13 states are considering changes in net metering, and legislation to outlaw it entirely has been introduced in several states, although it has not passed so far.

https://politics.concordmonitor.com...u-s-many-utilities-are-battling-net-metering/

Without tax incentives and net metering, solar rooftop is dead. Those incentives are going away. Paying $20,000 up front for 5kw solar system has a lot of dead time when the sun don't shine.

 

[Meandering]

Download a Quicktime animation of this dataset (4 MB)

On Earth, something is always burning. Wildfires are started by lightning or accidentally by people, and people use controlled fires to manage farmland and pasture and clear natural vegetation for farmland. Fires can generate large amounts of smoke pollution, release greenhouse gases, and unintentionally degrade ecosystems. But fires can also clear away dead and dying underbrush, which can help restore an ecosystem to good health. In many ecosystems, including boreal forests and grasslands, plants have co-evolved with fire and require periodic burning to reproduce.

The fire maps show the locations of actively burning fires around the world on a monthly basis, based on observations from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Terra satellite. The colors are based on a count of the number (not size) of fires observed within a 1,000-square-kilometer area. White pixels show the high end of the count —as many as 100 fires in a 1,000-square-kilometer area per day. Yellow pixels show as many as 10 fires, orange shows as many as 5 fires, and red areas as few as 1 fire per day.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD14A1_M_FIRE

Save the earth from carbon emissions.



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[Meandering]

The carbon monoxide maps show the monthly averages of carbon monoxide at an altitude of about 12,000 feet, based on data from the MOPITT sensor on NASA’s Terra satellite. Concentrations of carbon monoxide are expressed in parts per billion by volume (ppbv). A concentration of 1 ppbv means that for every billion molecules of gas in the measured volume, one of them is a carbon monoxide molecule. Yellow areas have little or no carbon monoxide, while progressively higher concentrations are shown in orange and red.

Carbon Monoxide

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD14A1_M_FIRE&d2=MOP_CO_M

Oh look, China and Africa is where the emissions are.

Darn Gov and their websites.

Kool aid induced heart burn.

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[Randolph Kinney]

But solar will save the world!

Yes, water vapor is a climate crime!

 

[Randolph Kinney]