All Solar, Et Al, In 12 Years?

[Randolph Kinney]

"Dinosaurs that roamed the Earth 250 million years ago knew a world with five times more carbon dioxide than is present on Earth today, researchers say, and new techniques for estimating the amount of carbon dioxide on prehistoric Earth may help scientists predict how Earth's climate may change in the future.

The aim has been to demonstrate how variations in plate tectonics have led to variations in CO2 emissions from volcanoes 250 million years ago."


I see a Climate Scientist's frog conclusion coming. These guys have to account for natural variation in CO2 levels before humans.


The researchers then quantified the plates that have sunk into the deep Earth, and their calculations showed that the Earth produced twice as much CO2 as there is today.

The scientists then inserted this number into a comprehensive, commonly used paleoclimate model, to calculate how all the volcanic CO2 emissions at the time would have added up. Because there was also less CO2 being removed from the atmosphere by vegetation and by weathering rocks than today, total atmospheric CO2 levels were probably five times higher than at the present, the researchers said.

"We are now producing more CO2 than all volcanoes on Earth," van der Meer added.

And the frog became deaf because of human caused CO2 levels exceeded that which was produced by volcanoes.

 

[Carnivore]

I identify myself most as a conservationist. That's why I point fingers at people who buy millions of cases of plastic bottled water every year. What! Our older generations wasted almost nothing. The re-purposed everything they could. They did not take stuff to a county dump. They had there own pile of stuff that was a future resource for something they could create as a useful tool or whatever. What's so bad about that.

Coal fired electrical plants are almost gone do to regulations on clean air. Well what I found most interesting about that movement is simply crazy. The major energy companies like Duke Energy developed with technology ways to reduce emissions in response to the enviro-wacko's. They were doing a great job. Well it appears that reduced emissions were not the goal of the enviro-wackos. They then revealed themselves by then going after the waste coal ash. On that I agree, the Energy companies did a poor job of insuring the coal ash was not a threat to the environment and it resulted in some bad accidents.

What made me want to question the wisdom of enviro-wackos was simple; Develop a better way to dispose or reuse the coal ash(as a filler of some sort). The wackos I spoke with turned a deaf ear to that thinking.

Now Coal fired electrical plants could be the source you need to supplement Solar Energy when it was not possible to meet demands due to weather related limitations.

So if coal is not good, how about natural gas as a supplement. I don't think they like that idea either.

So I see the problem is them not those of us who believe a slow transition to implementing solar is a better path. I firmly believe that solar will never be the sole source of energy for the world.

I am liking this Pandemic thing more and more as the only answer.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

US science agency says 2015 is 97% likely to be the hottest year on record

The world has experienced record-breaking warmth every month so far this year, and Noaa scientists say global warming and El Niño are the cause

The world has experienced record-breaking warmth every month so far in 2015, making this year virtually guaranteed to be the hottest on record, according to a US science agency.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) said that 2015 was 97% likely to be the hottest year so far, eclipsing 2014, the current warmest year.

Last month was the warmest ever August globally since records began in 1880, at 1.58F above the 20th century average. Every month this year has been the hottest on record, with the period of January to August 1.51F above the long-term average.

In an update published on Thursday by Noaa, scientists said that manmade global warming and the El Niño climate phenomenon were the cause.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/17/2015-hottest-year-on-record-noaa

How is it that man-caused global warming is causing record new highs year after year and at the same time a pause in global warming for the last 18 years and 8 months where global temperature trend is zero?

 

[Meandering]

I like the tree study.

Before, we only studied saplings. This time we only studied very mature trees.

Guess what!

Saplings react differently to spring than mature trees do.
(um, more than 2,000 years of inhabiting the planet should have told them that).

It has nothing to do with the density of the root systems, bark or trunk, nope.
It has nothing to do with natural succession in that if mature trees leaf out first, saplings will be shaded under the canopy, not receiving enough sunlight to leaf out at all. Nope, can't be that trees are designed to survive their own environment.

Both saplings and mature trees feel the spring warmth at their core, at the same time, allowing their sap to flow to produce leaves,

Saplings reacting to spring warmth sooner than mature trees suddenly don't count,

Mature trees taking longer to warm than saplings is suddenly our fault.

I wonder why they haven't filed a RICO suit against saplings yet.



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[Carnivore]

One thing that irritates me is how we can harvest lumber, ship it to China and they make furniture and ship it back to us cheaper than we can make furniture here.

Hmmm, we are expending FUEL(pollution) so we can have new and pretty furniture. This does not sound very environmentally conscious.

In Germany if they cut a tree down they have to replant it. They have Waldmeister's who oversee their little forest areas. What do we do?

http://www.clearcutoregon.com/clearcutting-in-oregon.html

True they re-plant, but seriously folks this is not good.

Wow

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Most of us are not against conservation. However, I am against phony science and propaganda to justify carbon regulation with cap and trade or carbon taxes. Why not force the price energy straight up with a direct tax on usage? The public would be outraged because there is no reason for doing that other than to collect more revenue. So, the world is on fire because humans are producing too carbon dioxide and therefore we have to save the planet by regulation and taxation.

Oh, that's okay. Nevermind.

 

[Meandering]

Not to worry Carnivore,

Replanting makes many more new saplings, that respond to spring earlier than mature trees.

Think about a teenager and an old grandpa, which one jumps up and grabs the ice cream first?

That's how it is with sunlight and trees. Replanting insures trees are there in the future, the problem, is the trampling of the other forest fauna to cut and replant trees, much of which is not replaced, or considered at all, so
while trees are important to CO2 transference, so too is the underbrush,

but that too benefits from removing the canopy of mature trees in that sunlight reaches the ground and stimulates the undergrowth to recover faster and be denser than under a mature canopy of trees.

Earth was designed to work this way.

Politics were too.

Get rid of the slow and old politicians

and younger faster ones spring up.


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[Randolph Kinney]

The solution to human caused CO2 and therefore global warming: Soda lime


Soda lime is a mixture of chemicals, used in granular form in closed breathing environments, such as general anaesthesia, submarines, rebreathers and recompression chambers, to remove carbon dioxide from breathing gases to prevent CO2 retention and carbon dioxide poisoning.

The main components of soda lime are:

• Calcium hydroxide, Ca(OH)2 (about 75%)
• Water, H2O (about 20%)
• Sodium hydroxide, NaOH (about 3%)
• Potassium hydroxide, KOH (about 1%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_lime

Calcium hydroxide, traditionally called slaked lime, is an inorganic compound with the chemical formula Ca(OH)2. It is a colorless crystal or white powder and is obtained when calcium oxide (called lime or quicklime) is mixed, or "slaked" with water. It has many names including hydrated lime, builders' lime, slack lime, cal, or pickling lime. Calcium hydroxide is used in many applications, including food preparation. Limewater is the common name for a saturated solution of calcium hydroxide.

Calcium hydroxide is produced commercially by treating lime with water:

CaO + H2O → Ca(OH)2
In the laboratory it can be prepared by mixing aqueous solutions of calcium chloride and sodium hydroxide. It has also been known to arise in burning coal dumps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hydroxide

Instead of blanketing the dessert with solar panels, they should blanket the dessert with soda lime.

 

[Meandering]

Wait a minute.

Lime stone, ground into lime, and mixed with water is Portland cement.
Every permanent structure has Portland cement.

Calcium hydroxide has also been known to arise in burning coal dumps.

So building buildings and burning coal has REDUCED the amount of CO2 the EARTH is putting into the atmosphere

us and our industries are good for the planet, because if left to itself, it would fill up with CO2, and burn up into a quasar.

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[Randolph Kinney]

Limestone, a sedimentary rock that is dominantly composed of the calcium-bearing carbonate minerals calcite and dolomite. Calcite is chemically calcium carbonate (formula CaCO3). Limestone makes up about 10% of the total volume of all sedimentary rocks. In the ocean, the calcium ions combine with bicarbonate ions to form calcium carbonate. Bicarbonate is produced when CO2 is dissolved in the oceans.

In the ocean, most of the calcium carbonate is made by shell-building (calcifying) organisms (such as corals) and plankton (like coccolithophores and foraminifera). After the organisms die, they sink to the seafloor. Over time, layers of shells and sediment are cemented together and turn to rock, storing the carbon in stone—limestone and its derivatives.

Chemistry regulates this dance between ocean, land, and atmosphere. It is called the carbon cycle.

So, harvest the ocean floor for the carbonates, convert it to calcium hydroxide, spread it over the ground and suck the CO2 out of the air.