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Well, that is one theory. Here is another possibility.

Company A enters into a contract with Person B to provide work as a contractor, not an employee. Through the course of completing the work on the contract, Person B's work product is very good, and as a result, Company A offers Person B a position as an employee. Of course, that is not as "juicy" because it is just a common occurrence in the business world.

I don’t actually have a problem with that scenario as long as the people being brought in are competent and their work holds up under real-world scrutiny.


Sure, maybe it was just a case of Company A liking Person B’s contract work and offering them a job. That’s one theory, and yes, it happens all the time in business.


But here’s another possibility: when someone develops and promotes a methodology that doesn’t stand up to peer review or actual market behavior, and then that person ends up in a high-level policy role at a GSE, it raises fair questions. Not about the hiring process on its face, but about how influence and alignment shape the profession, especially when the same flawed ideas suddenly start showing up in accepted training and appraisal narratives. That's something that you simply don't want to admit to.


So if it’s just a standard hiring situation, fine. But when the person being hired has a history of pushing weak or unsupported valuation methods, that’s no longer business as usual. That’s a red flag.
 
How long were you a fee appraiser before you decided you couldn't cut it? Was your first step out the door into the review world, or did you just leave all together?

I don't blame you; life is much simpler punching a timecard and collecting a paycheck twice a month.

Daddy Gumps is in the early stages of dementia.
 
How long were you a fee appraiser before you decided you couldn't cut it? Was your first step out the door into the review world, or did you just leave all together?

I don't blame you; life is much simpler punching a timecard and collecting a paycheck twice a month.
If you had applied Networking and had developed social skills you wouldn't be in the situation your in right now.

You have nobody to blame but your own negative personality.

Would you hire yourself or your double to operate a business ? You would maybe have been a good employee but not a good businessman.
 
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How long were you a fee appraiser before you decided you couldn't cut it? Was your first step out the door into the review world, or did you just leave all together?

I don't blame you; life is much simpler punching a timecard and collecting a paycheck twice a month.
Since you asked and since you are constantly implying personal corruption and conflict of interests and unethical conduct I will respond so DW doesn't have to.

The way I heard it, DW worked as a fee appraiser for 20+ years before appointment to the ASB, worked a couple more years as a fee appraiser and expert witness and then got approached-recruited by the AMC for that job. They approached him in an effort to improve the technical aspects of their policy and performance. Based on his demonstrated experience and competency with appraisal standards. Make whatever other unsupported personal attacks on him you want to make, but you cannot accuse him of starting off as a suit LARPing as an appraiser.

He was already a subject matter expert in appraising SFRs and an SME in appraisal standards when they hired him and then he developed his competencies WRT operating the larger appraisal panel at an AMC. I guess you could say he's now an SME on the GSE policies. I strongly doubt you know of anyone else with all of these different competencies. I sure don't. Not that it matters what I do/don't know.

If you object to the AMC (or the GSEs) hiring someone with that level of experience and qualifications in fee appraisal + QE/CE instruction (prior to the ASB) + USPAP instruction then I guess the next question is what resume do you think the AMC should have recruited instead? You? Me? Mejappz? Someone like Jonathan Miller? Some one-trick form monkey who never once had a appraisal-competent client? Some suit from CBRE who never appraised a house?

I have the minority opinion here, but I think the GSEs are lucky to have hired someone with the broad base of "boots-on-the-ground" experience + technical competency. I'll tell you something else, too: If DW had NOT been at Freddie it's almost a certainty that the "Appraisers-R-Racists" allegations would have turned out even worse for appraisers. Instead of accusing him of being anti-appraiser you should be showing some gratitude for his service.
 
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How long were you a fee appraiser before you decided you couldn't cut it? Was your first step out the door into the review world, or did you just leave all together?

I don't blame you; life is much simpler punching a timecard and collecting a paycheck twice a month.
Glenn has never had any allegiance to appraisers. He became an "appraiser" to better facilitate gaming the system from every angle. He has never likely completed an appraisal. His license was likely based on broker CMAs labeled as appraisals.
 
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Watch out.....
Letitia James
 
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If you had applied Networking and had developed social skills you wouldn't be in the situation your in right now.

You have nobody to blame but your own negative personality. Would you hire yourself, or your double to operate a business ? You would maybe have been
a good employee but not a businessman.

What's my situation? Appraising is 20-30% of my income. Even less of total family income. I'm doing pretty well.

I loved appraising full time. But because of the unethical folks that seem to be out there making the rules, I couldn't put my family's future in the hands of such immoral people. So yes, I will fight for the good people I have met in my 23 years in this profession. I'll even continue to fight for the memory of the appraiser I knew that committed suicide after their business was stolen from them after decades in the field.

Decisions that are made come with real world consequences. And that goes both ways. Wonder if that's ever talked about in the revaa room?
 
Since you asked and since you are constantly implying personal corruption and conflict of interests and unethical conduct I will respond so DW doesn't have to.

The way I heard it, DW worked as a fee appraiser for 20+ years before appointment to the ASB, worked a couple more years as a fee appraiser and expert witness and then got approached-recruited by the AMC for that job. They approached him in an effort to improve the technical aspects of their policy and performance. Based on his demonstrated experience and competency with appraisal standards. Make whatever other unsupported personal attacks on him you want to make, but you cannot accuse him of starting off as a suit LARPing as an appraiser.

He was already a subject matter expert in appraising SFRs and an SME in appraisal standards when they hired him and then he developed his competencies WRT operating the larger appraisal panel at an AMC. I guess you could say he's now an SME on the GSE policies. I strongly doubt you know of anyone else with all of these different competencies. I sure don't. Not that it matters what I do/don't know.

If you object to the AMC (or the GSEs) hiring someone with that level of experience and qualifications in fee appraisal + QE/CE instruction (prior to the ASB) + USPAP instruction then I guess the next question is what resume do you think the AMC should have recruited instead? You? Me? Mejappz? Someone like Jonathan Miller? Some one-trick form monkey who never once had a top tier client? Some suit from CBRE who never appraised a house?

I have the minority opinion here, but I think the GSEs are lucky to have hired someone with the broad base of "boots-on-the-ground" experience + technical competency. I'll tell you something else, too: If DW had NOT been at Fannie it's almost a certainty that the "Appraisers-R-Racists" allegations would have turned out even worse for appraisers. Instead of accusing him of being anti-appraiser you should be showing some gratitude for his service.
Isn't he with Freddie? I think Danny is great, he can take banter as well as dish it out. I don't agree with everything the GSE's do and I worry their big data gets misinterpreted from time to time, but Danny is a stand up guy. I think he knows when I am blaming him for GSE things that I am just joking.
 
If you had applied Networking and had developed social skills you wouldn't be in the situation your in right now.

You have nobody to blame but your own negative personality.

Would you hire yourself or your double to operate a business ? You would maybe have been a good employee but not a good businessman.
There are lots of negative personalities on this forum. He does not have the market cornered.
 
Since you asked and since you are constantly implying personal corruption and conflict of interests and unethical conduct I will respond so DW doesn't have to.

The way I heard it, DW worked as a fee appraiser for 20+ years before appointment to the ASB, worked a couple more years as a fee appraiser and expert witness and then got approached-recruited by the AMC for that job. They approached him in an effort to improve the technical aspects of their policy and performance. Based on his demonstrated experience and competency with appraisal standards. Make whatever other unsupported personal attacks on him you want to make, but you cannot accuse him of starting off as a suit LARPing as an appraiser.

He was already a subject matter expert in appraising SFRs and an SME in appraisal standards when they hired him and then he developed his competencies WRT operating the larger appraisal panel at an AMC. I guess you could say he's now an SME on the GSE policies. I strongly doubt you know of anyone else with all of these different competencies. I sure don't. Not that it matters what I do/don't know.

If you object to the AMC (or the GSEs) hiring someone with that level of experience and qualifications in fee appraisal + QE/CE instruction (prior to the ASB) + USPAP instruction then I guess the next question is what resume do you think the AMC should have recruited instead? You? Me? Mejappz? Someone like Jonathan Miller? Some one-trick form monkey who never once had a appraisal-competent client? Some suit from CBRE who never appraised a house?

I have the minority opinion here, but I think the GSEs are lucky to have hired someone with the broad base of "boots-on-the-ground" experience + technical competency. I'll tell you something else, too: If DW had NOT been at Freddie it's almost a certainty that the "Appraisers-R-Racists" allegations would have turned out even worse for appraisers. Instead of accusing him of being anti-appraiser you should be showing some gratitude for his service.

Why do you have DW's resume memorized? Creepy. But I wasn't responding to him. :rof:

As a general rule, I try to ignore him and anyone else associated with the GSE's, revaa, TAF, AI, etc. And I suspect he's had his hand in all 4.
 
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