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Anyone Going To Valuation Expo ** Las Vegas In August ?

For those who are going; please ask to see a live and working version of UAD 3.6 running on a tablet.
CoreLogic.. I mean Cotality, did have a running beta version at their booth, but other than a quick demo there, nothing currently outside of their testing program. Myself and a few others gave our business cards to maybe join the beta group, but no promises from Ala Mode yet.
 
Ok. Now somewhat rested and in between researching my appointments for today, let’s get into Day 3 CE from Val Expo:

The day started off with Paula Konikoff from the Appraisal Institute plugging their community of appraisers and the benefits of being a part. Even though she called it out as an “infomercial”, it was great to hear, as my last few years have just been head down training or working towards my Certified Residential license, and I’ve not had the bandwidth to join any appraisal organization. A great point from the prior day that ties in, is that designation and proof you are part of a knowledge community is helpful in proving you are an expert if you are trying to be an expert witness.

The next panel was AI Pros and Cons, where it seemed that most everyone on stage was completely bought into the AI hype machine, though I appreciated Jeff Bradford’s conservative approach to utilizing AI (he knows his stuff and made good points bout how deep learning models are more reliable than generative AI). No talk of how appraisers can specifically utilize the technology, just that we should mess around with it and see what works for us.

I will be honest about the pre lunch session on Scope of Work/ How to Reduce Revision Requests, I was trying to keep my attention, but it was a bit so/so. Most of the revision requests I get are the reader not finding the place I’ve already talked about something, so with 3.6 having commentary right next to the work, I kinda checked out because the advice they were giving was pretty straightforward if you are a competent appraiser. With 3.6 having a place in the grid section where you can put comps you considered but did not use (plus a space for commentary why), that should also reduce revision requests around comps, so again, I just checked out cause I was hungry, haha

Post lunch session was How AI Agents are Replacing Manual Labor in Mortgage Ops. Did not seem geared towards appraisers at first and perhaps more of the others represented in the crowd, but a run through of possibilities of use of AI in the mortgage process. I did ask a question of if AI is good enough to automate the “front office” duties, and one of the speakers said yes, and that it could even handle quoting appraisals and handling customer service needs. Now, he did not mention any specifics, as it seems most of those directly tied to AI are full in on the kool-aid and just want you to use their solution (as the person answering was from the organization that sponsored the stage, Alpha7x). All around Ok, but nothing substantial I got from it other than being asked to jump on the hype train

The session on Manufactured homes was great, and pretty straightforward. Why anyone would be afraid of doing manufactured work is crazy to me, and enjoyed that they showed what it will kind of look like in the new report structure, if I am remembering correctly. Great discussion of depreciation of Manuf homes even before they are set, as the transport of it does introduce wear and tear on the house, doubly so if it gets moved again.

Last session of worth was about supporting adjustments, which did include a link to Freddie’s Market Conditions Analysis Industry Resources pdf, which they just released last month. It gives links to tools for adjustments, as well as a list of Home Price Indexes for whatever data needs that satisfies for you. Again, straightforward. Show your work and don’t just rely on the math to tell the story of the data.

I did not care for the final panel “Navigating a Strong Future for Appraisers in an AI world”, as it felt like another reiteration of “use AI, it we won’t tell you how to apply it specifically” from a guy who benefits from more investment into AI in this space.
Didn’t help that most of us were chomping at the bit to get home either. The other days were more helpful in “navigating a strong future” as it actually helped me diversify my book of business or clued me into different avenues to sell my services; This was just window dressing that did not meaningfully talk about a strong future for appraisers and does not push back against the possibility that AI might not be the silver bullet everyone thinks it is.

Overall, interesting set of panels this year, and interested to see what the big topics will become this next year!
 
Frank I realized I was getting old in the business when I mentioned Henry Harrison to a guy setting next to me at a CE course......
he thought I was talking about some new singer he hadn't heard of yet. :)
When I first became involved with NAR and their Appraisal Committee in the 90's Henry would be siting in on meetings.
 
When I first became involved with NAR and their Appraisal Committee in the 90's Henry would be siting in on meetings.
Henry used to have a website called “Ask Henry” or something similar. I sent him a question once about an assignment I had on an old historic home for the cost approach on Reproduction/Replacement cost and he sent a lengthy, concise and polite answer, he must be a true gentleman, I hope he’s doing well. It was much safer sending him the question than posting it in here and enduring the gauntlet. :)
 
Henry used to have a website called “Ask Henry” or something similar. I sent him a question once about an assignment I had on an old historic home for the cost approach on Reproduction/Replacement cost and he sent a lengthy, concise and polite answer, he must be a true gentleman, I hope he’s doing well. It was much safer sending him the question than posting it in here and enduring the gauntlet. :)
Mr. Harrison had character, and his allegiance was to the profession not an org, TAF, ASB, and defiantly not REVAA. Right now, our industry is suffering because it is too thin for the politicking and backdoor dealing that's going on. Whether it's the AMC Expo or all the mess that's going on in DC, when you look around most are there for their own interests and looking for their next job, next class to sell, or next investment. Just like the Nancy Pelosi's of the world who use knowledge gained through their positions to enrich themselves, that’s exactly what's going on in our profession. It's basically insider trading at the AMC Expo, TAF, ASB, the insta-toot, etc. Using connections to job/position hop, to bend policy for financial gain, support policy for the next class no one wants or needs, etc.

If TAF, ASB, the insta-toot, etc. cared about the profession there would be a taskforce to retain who we have now, not a taskforce to “harmonize” and remove/replace standards, or promote ridiculously expensive Practicum and PAREA classes to bring in noobs. The amount of institutional knowledge being lost with the mass exodus of residential appraisers is breathtaking. But TAF and those there for their own interests can only make money selling Practicum, PAREA, bias classes, etc. so we will never see any effort to help indie appraisers who are the backbone of this industry. The money for them is in churn and burn classes, selling a dream to noobs. I get that some don’t agree with me, but the proof is in the pudding; Untold millions poured into Practicum, PAREA, ADI, harmonization, etc. without a single dollar to any indie appraiser to help train the next generation. Or more importantly, zero effort to help level the playing field for indie appraisers who are being run out of decades long careers by AMCs and REVAA.
 
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Ok. Now somewhat rested and in between researching my appointments for today, let’s get into Day 3 CE from Val Expo:

The day started off with Paula Konikoff from the Appraisal Institute plugging their community of appraisers and the benefits of being a part. Even though she called it out as an “infomercial”, it was great to hear, as my last few years have just been head down training or working towards my Certified Residential license, and I’ve not had the bandwidth to join any appraisal organization. A great point from the prior day that ties in, is that designation and proof you are part of a knowledge community is helpful in proving you are an expert if you are trying to be an expert witness.

The next panel was AI Pros and Cons, where it seemed that most everyone on stage was completely bought into the AI hype machine, though I appreciated Jeff Bradford’s conservative approach to utilizing AI (he knows his stuff and made good points bout how deep learning models are more reliable than generative AI). No talk of how appraisers can specifically utilize the technology, just that we should mess around with it and see what works for us.

I will be honest about the pre lunch session on Scope of Work/ How to Reduce Revision Requests, I was trying to keep my attention, but it was a bit so/so. Most of the revision requests I get are the reader not finding the place I’ve already talked about something, so with 3.6 having commentary right next to the work, I kinda checked out because the advice they were giving was pretty straightforward if you are a competent appraiser. With 3.6 having a place in the grid section where you can put comps you considered but did not use (plus a space for commentary why), that should also reduce revision requests around comps, so again, I just checked out cause I was hungry, haha

Post lunch session was How AI Agents are Replacing Manual Labor in Mortgage Ops. Did not seem geared towards appraisers at first and perhaps more of the others represented in the crowd, but a run through of possibilities of use of AI in the mortgage process. I did ask a question of if AI is good enough to automate the “front office” duties, and one of the speakers said yes, and that it could even handle quoting appraisals and handling customer service needs. Now, he did not mention any specifics, as it seems most of those directly tied to AI are full in on the kool-aid and just want you to use their solution (as the person answering was from the organization that sponsored the stage, Alpha7x). All around Ok, but nothing substantial I got from it other than being asked to jump on the hype train

The session on Manufactured homes was great, and pretty straightforward. Why anyone would be afraid of doing manufactured work is crazy to me, and enjoyed that they showed what it will kind of look like in the new report structure, if I am remembering correctly. Great discussion of depreciation of Manuf homes even before they are set, as the transport of it does introduce wear and tear on the house, doubly so if it gets moved again.

Last session of worth was about supporting adjustments, which did include a link to Freddie’s Market Conditions Analysis Industry Resources pdf, which they just released last month. It gives links to tools for adjustments, as well as a list of Home Price Indexes for whatever data needs that satisfies for you. Again, straightforward. Show your work and don’t just rely on the math to tell the story of the data.

I did not care for the final panel “Navigating a Strong Future for Appraisers in an AI world”, as it felt like another reiteration of “use AI, it we won’t tell you how to apply it specifically” from a guy who benefits from more investment into AI in this space.
Didn’t help that most of us were chomping at the bit to get home either. The other days were more helpful in “navigating a strong future” as it actually helped me diversify my book of business or clued me into different avenues to sell my services; This was just window dressing that did not meaningfully talk about a strong future for appraisers and does not push back against the possibility that AI might not be the silver bullet everyone thinks it is.

Overall, interesting set of panels this year, and interested to see what the big topics will become this next year!
Great writeup, thanks for the detail!
 
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