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Appraisers Value Of Remodel

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Why not go out a couple miles?

Or even further....and to the OP dump that 6 months sale date BS...

I also liked the alternative of using detached SFR
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Also Remodel/renovation cost are very similar in fairly large areas
 
My question is, should I assume that the value of the remodel then would be approximately $44k? Or should I take $44k/Square Footage and use that in comparison to the subject property as the house I referenced that sold for $212k is 373 sq ft smaller than subject property.

Thanks in advance!

You shouldn't make the assumption (or do the calculation as you suggest) and infer that the result reflects the contributory value of the remodel (although it may be an indicator).

I'm assuming you have a two-part issue: (a) How do you, as a Realtor, price this property for a sale (or advise a buyer how much to pay for it) and (b) if it goes into contract, can you expect any appraisal issues?

As a Realtor, you can do your BPO process and certainly use older sales (adjusted for differences in the market conditions; i.e., appreciation or depreciation) and go to competing areas (a "competing area" is a market that is outside of the subject's primary geographical market area but is similar in all other respects such that the properties there would complete equally/similarly to the subject in its specific market area) to do some comparisons and calculate a value difference (remodel vs. standard); then apply it to the sales in your subject's specific market and voila!
That is all reasonable; however, it may get a little complicated finding and appropriately comparing properties from a competing neighborhood. This is not a "dis" on you: not all agents are trained to do this. Appraisers are supposed to be trained to do it so the advice we give on this makes perfect sense to us but may not be something you are familiar with.

As to the appraisal if you are listing the property...
You have the classic problem of having the best property of its class in a market that (at least for the last 6-12 months and within a relatively small area) hasn't caught-up with yet. And, when I say "caught up", I don't mean value/price but I do mean updates/remodeling.
Solving this appraisal problem is straightforward (but might require some additional steps). They involve all the things already mentioned: consider cost, go out to competing markets, go back more than 6-12 months, etc.
Solving this appraisal problem and meeting the lender's loan requirements may not be so straightforward. I want to be clear on this: Lenders like to make loans on properties where the appraisal confirms the collateral value with the lease amount of unexpected adjustments. Lenders start to get cold feet when the appraisal, conforming to sound appraisal methodology, doesn't fit exactly what they would like. It's the golden rule. So even if the appraisal is done consistent with sound practices, the property just may not fit the lender's risk/loan appetite. C'est la vie!
For the appraisal process, I would recommend that the seller work closely with their lender to ensure that (i) the lender understands the dynamics and is willing to go forward based on that understanding and (ii) they select an appraiser who is sufficiently competent to complete the extra steps that may be necessary. In my experience, a local lender would be more apt to take on this kind of scenario than a national lender (the local lender knows the market already).

And, after everything is said and done, be prepared for the potential outcome being the appraisal will conclude a value lower than the list or contract price.
In nearly every market, there is a "ceiling" that a typical buyer will not go above (once they hit that ceiling, they'll go to a superior neighborhood and buy an inferior home, or switch to a different type of home; detached SFR vs. townhouse, for example). Whatever the current owner did to their unit and whatever they spent, the value of the home is likely capped by that neighborhood ceiling.

Good luck!
 
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Something to consider, that many do not think about when considering the impact of remodeling.

Say I have a 15 year old kitchen (or bath) that I am going to take down to the studs and replace. The first step in the process will be paying someone to demo the existing. So, the process starts by paying someone to do something that diminishes the value.

This is why those who professionally flip will say that the money is made on the purchase, not the remodel :)
 
Something to consider, that many do not think about when considering the impact of remodeling.

Say I have a 15 year old kitchen (or bath) that I am going to take down to the studs and replace. The first step in the process will be paying someone to demo the existing. So, the process starts by paying someone to do something that diminishes the value.

This is why those who professionally flip will say that the money is made on the purchase, not the remodel :)
:clapping::clapping::clapping:

That's why real flippers, clean, maybe paint, and get it back on the market.

And some remodeling is what should be considered, normal replacement of short lived items that has been deferred. 30 year old appliances, carpet and possibly paint, well, it was just time to do it.
 
You're trying to isolate a condition adjustment for a home in a given price range. Whether it's a townhome or a detached SFR makes no difference as far as solving for an adjustment factor. You're basically trying to find a proxy in order to develop an adjustment, not a direct comparable for your Sales Comparison.

So as a proxy for 1980s townhomes in (let's say) the $200k value range, you might be able to find some remodeled SFRs in that price range to compare to their respective "average condition" comparables, the difference being attributable to the upgrades.
 
Hello! I am looking for opinions/advice as to a difficult to value home. The home is in a townhome community nestled between Single Family homes. Comparable town homes in the neighborhood within 1/2 mile are limited to four within the past 12 months and 0 isn’t he past 6 months with prices (one pending sale set to close in the next two weeks). Comparable homes were built in 1980s and have all original 1980 finishes where the subject property was completely remodeled (not updated, remodeled to make kitchen and master bathroom more functional) from 2016-2017. I know what the owner put into the property as far as the remodeling costs, but is there a way to quantify what an appraiser typically quantifies a remodel value over a comparable home? The home appraised as a C4 property when home owner purchased two years prior.

You betcha - call one up and hire them. Not one of us here is legally allowed to perform an appraisal of the property over the internet. If you want to be your own appraiser, then do what we do, and find similar homes that have sold in your market recently and use those as an estimate - but you already knew that!!!

Good luck and happy investing!

And PS - Not all appraisers will insist they sell you the whole enchilada if you hire them. If you were to find an appraiser who is also an investor, you might be able to hire them for streamlined services that are quite affordable.
 
Orig Poster reported the appraisal report described the subject's condition as C4 PRIOR SALE 2years earlier

vs subject's remodeled condition appears to contradict that assertion

scroll down to the Condition Ratings table description

https://www.fanniemae.com/content/guide/selling/b4/1.3/06.html

What does the current appraisal report as the subject's current Condition?

At least one comparable (Listing, Contracted Listing or preferably Closed Sale should equal or exceed the subject's current Condition - IF available.
 
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