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California (Maybe) Dreaming

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ZZGAMAZZ

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I'm weary of living in the SoCal Inland Empire region--traffic, miserable hot summers, bums sleeping on the porch, unaffordable housing/non-cultural/etc. I'm unencumbered and ready to roll, although I wish to continue residential appraisals and wonder whether a comfortable/cool/rainy/sleepy/reasonably-priced California city that needs an additional CR exists anywhere in the state. Peers???
 
Don't know if they need appraisers, but it sounds like you would love Eureka...
 
Don't know if they need appraisers, but it sounds like you would love Eureka...
It is very kind of you to respond; and it is coincidental that Eureka is near the top of every "Best Place to Live in California" web search. I'm also toying tentatively with an idea to move to Thailand where I could live for half of every year, after buying a nice nice SFR for less than $150K USA, while returning to Cali for the other 5 months and 27 days, to work as an appraiser while avoiding CA taxes (good luck that). But thank you.
 
I believe there's good and safe places to live in CA. I'm surprise when I occasionally see one homeless person walking in my downtown.
Even in the most expensive town, there has been a rash of robberies from Chilean gangs I heard.
When criminals see opportunities, they will come.
 
I believe there's good and safe places to live in CA. I'm surprise when I occasionally see one homeless person walking in my downtown.
Even in the most expensive town, there has been a rash of robberies from Chilean gangs I heard.
When criminals see opportunities, they will come.
Pal of mine was passing through Riverside last month en route from San Diego to Pittsburgh. He checked out a local franchise motel around the corner from my condo. Roomkeeper advised him that most of the rooms were occupied by transients whose rents were being paid by the County homeless entity. I'm optimistic but occasionally feel that it's good to be older now because of the scary uncertain future.
 
Don't know if they need appraisers, but it sounds like you would love Eureka...
Don't know if they need appraisers, but it sounds like you would love Eureka...
Sorry to ruin your day but no such place is in California is available on the cheap period. You need to work it backwards - What price home or rent can you afford in CALI ? - Give me those number and I can quickly give you some ideas. But if its less than $800,000- Your stuck in the IE-which is 75% better than almost all other lower to median priced areas in SO CA If you see home prices in the $250K to $400K ranges in CALI you are going into hot-dirty miserable areas. If I was single and on a budget I would try to hook up with a wealthy women who lived in Beach Towns or Beverly Hills Brentwood etc. If that cannot be accomplished I would leave the State and go where life is slower and cheaper.
 
Sorry to ruin your day but no such place is in California is available on the cheap period. You need to work it backwards - What price home or rent can you afford in CALI ? - Give me those number and I can quickly give you some ideas. But if its less than $800,000- Your stuck in the IE-which is 75% better than almost all other lower to median priced areas in SO CA If you see home prices in the $250K to $400K ranges in CALI you are going into hot-dirty miserable areas. If I was single and on a budget I would try to hook up with a wealthy women who lived in Beach Towns or Beverly Hills Brentwood etc. If that cannot be accomplished I would leave the State and go where life is slower and cheaper.
I'm paying $2,600/month now to rent a nice condo in Riverside, although I still remember how my appraisal income declined by 95% in one month circa 2007. It's impossible to find a house for sale in Riverside city for less than $450K, which based on my old-school mentality is 2x what anybody should ever have to pay. And it's HOT here for about 7 months every year. I like the rain and pleasant weather, and trees that change color, and the faint sound of the locomotive in the distant night, etc., although I'm hoping to hook up with Fernando's sister in Redondo, and I have tentative plans to visit a beautiful woman in Thailand who I met on Facebook, which is intriguing because she is a beautiful woman, and also because nice nice SFR's in Thailand are available in the low low $100K's, and the idea of being an Ex-Pat is intriguing, 'specially if I can live there six months and one day, and live-&-appraise in CA for 5 months and 29 days every year, to avoid CA taxes. Or I can move back to the Northern Panhandle of WV where my family owns two nice SFR's recently appraised for way less than $100K each, in a city where the Main Street runs through the once-thriving steel mill now in ruins. Or, I can stop with the pipedreams and keep living and working where I am at present, until the end.
 
Or, I can stop with the pipedreams and keep living and working where I am at present, until the end.
Yes, the problem is we dream these dreams then in the end do nothing only to regret it in old age when we can't do anything about it.

In the 20 years of living the nomad life, I longed to return to Arkansas permanently (I did have land here in partnership with my brother and a house which a roomie held down the fort.) But when finally moving on and becoming an appraiser, I've watched the rural small town home turned into sprawling tentacles where small villages re-incorporated to protect themselves from the sprawl and the rest goobled up in houses, regional airports, and not much else.

When I started appraising, I appraised a dairy farm near Bentonville. All Jersey herd. He lasted another couple of years. It is covered in houses now. There were dozens of dairies and I appraisals of same at least 3 or 4 a year until the late 20th century. I think I know of 2 dairies today. And one is closing this year. The other is sitting on land that would bring $50,000 an acre easy, surrounded by housing additions. Ryan is trying to save a multigenerational farm and live in the house he was born to. Like me, he is too old to start over somewhere else. And not ready to retire. All the poultry farms within 5 miles of him are gone. He will likely be the last dairy in the county. It is tough on my psyche to argue the "HBU" is to cover with houses and destroy yet another couple hundred acres of farmland with grass and trees and old houses (3) replacing with cookie cutters, concrete, and poisoned lawns. The spring on the place will be green and polluted, and city folk cannot figure why. And the dairy industry itself has gravitated to huge dairies with hundreds of cows, milked 24 hours a day, dry lot and fed a strict ration in drier climates to avoid the odor issues or in more isolated places. The 49 cow dairy cannot survive (FYI- 50 or more cows makes you subject to all sorts of EPA regulations over being a CAFO - "confined" animal feeding operation, even if you are running on a couple hundred acres.)

What does $10 million mean to a 65 year old farmer? What good is money? You pay the IRS $3 million. Or do a 1031 exchange for land in Oklahoma? I donno. What do you do? I had a little heart to heart with my niece and nephews. Our farm will be worth more dead than alive someday. It's been in the family since 1854. I said your grandad would turn in his grave if he knew we turned down a ridiculous offer. We can hold out for a few more years but in the end you all three will likely have to make a decision. Don't look back. Sell and move somewhere cheaper or simply forget it. Buy a house in town and kiss the country goodbye. And like those ancestors in Georgia 170 years ago, never go back. It is just a memory now. It is said, when my grandfather's great-grandmother was living she always longed to go "home" to Georgia. But you can never go home again.
 
Yes, the problem is we dream these dreams then in the end do nothing only to regret it in old age when we can't do anything about it.

In the 20 years of living the nomad life, I longed to return to Arkansas permanently (I did have land here in partnership with my brother and a house which a roomie held down the fort.) But when finally moving on and becoming an appraiser, I've watched the rural small town home turned into sprawling tentacles where small villages re-incorporated to protect themselves from the sprawl and the rest goobled up in houses, regional airports, and not much else.

When I started appraising, I appraised a dairy farm near Bentonville. All Jersey herd. He lasted another couple of years. It is covered in houses now. There were dozens of dairies and I appraisals of same at least 3 or 4 a year until the late 20th century. I think I know of 2 dairies today. And one is closing this year. The other is sitting on land that would bring $50,000 an acre easy, surrounded by housing additions. Ryan is trying to save a multigenerational farm and live in the house he was born to. Like me, he is too old to start over somewhere else. And not ready to retire. All the poultry farms within 5 miles of him are gone. He will likely be the last dairy in the county. It is tough on my psyche to argue the "HBU" is to cover with houses and destroy yet another couple hundred acres of farmland with grass and trees and old houses (3) replacing with cookie cutters, concrete, and poisoned lawns. The spring on the place will be green and polluted, and city folk cannot figure why. And the dairy industry itself has gravitated to huge dairies with hundreds of cows, milked 24 hours a day, dry lot and fed a strict ration in drier climates to avoid the odor issues or in more isolated places. The 49 cow dairy cannot survive (FYI- 50 or more cows makes you subject to all sorts of EPA regulations over being a CAFO - "confined" animal feeding operation, even if you are running on a couple hundred acres.)

What does $10 million mean to a 65 year old farmer? What good is money? You pay the IRS $3 million. Or do a 1031 exchange for land in Oklahoma? I donno. What do you do? I had a little heart to heart with my niece and nephews. Our farm will be worth more dead than alive someday. It's been in the family since 1854. I said your grandad would turn in his grave if he knew we turned down a ridiculous offer. We can hold out for a few more years but in the end you all three will likely have to make a decision. Don't look back. Sell and move somewhere cheaper or simply forget it. Buy a house in town and kiss the country goodbye. And like those ancestors in Georgia 170 years ago, never go back. It is just a memory now. It is said, when my grandfather's great-grandmother was living she always longed to go "home" to Georgia. But you can never go home again.
Kinda like the "East of Eden" novel/movie, although I can't remember the theme of the Thomas Wolfe book; in fact the only literature I've read in the past 20 years have been appraisal-related.
 
Kinda like the "East of Eden" novel/movie, although I can't remember the theme of the Thomas Wolfe book; in fact the only literature I've read in the past 20 years have been appraisal-related.
IMO the strangest part of literally going back home again is to see the aging faces of high school classmates. In fact I feel badly for some of them, although it is refreshing to see how old some of the girls who rejected me back then have become. Serves them right!!!!
 
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