Deepseek

[Carnivore]

I am using Microsoft Co-pilot its free

Deepseek I think is is the Chicoms

Liang Wenfeng, the co-founder of the Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer, owns and funds DeepSeek. Wenfeng is also the CEO of DeepSeek.

FTR someone or some entity is teaching Co-Pilot. It knows way to much about our profession. Co-pilot gave me a link to an AVM that is using AI

 

[cpursley]

It is the Chicom Way, "Copy and steal."

Except this time, they didn't copy and steal. DeepSeek has achieved some really interesting things with mixture-of-experts, memory optimization, and async token generation. The nerds in California are really freaking out right now.

Anyways, every industrializing nation copies until they learn how to do it on their own. America stole from Britain; Germany from Britain and America; Japan stole from Germany, S. Korea from Japan and America, etc and so on.

Btw, have you seen any of the new cars coming out of China? Visited a county with them; my mind was blown apart. They are no longer copying like they were a decade ago - some real innovation and legit nice looking designs.

Interesting YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Wheelsboy/videos

 

[cpursley]

Except this time, they didn't copy and steal. DeepSeek has achieved some really interesting things with mixture-of-experts, memory optimization, and async token generation. The nerds in California are really freaking out right now.

Anyways, every industrializing nation copies until they learn how to do it on their own. America stole from Britain; Germany from Britain and America; Japan stole from Germany, S. Korea from Japan and America, etc and so on.

Btw, have you seen any of the new cars coming out of China? Visited a county with them; my mind was blown apart. They are no longer copying like they were a decade ago - some real innovation and legit nice looking designs.

Interesting YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Wheelsboy/videos

BTW, the real reason China’s Huawei 5G network equipment was banned is because it was the better technology. Can't be havin' no real competition.

And really think about why they put a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs (hint: they are at least as good as Tesla and better than anything the big 3 puts out).

I bet we see a push to ban Chinese LLMs by low IQ congress critters who don't understand you can't outlaw math (DeepSeek and Qwen are open weight models).

 

[Carnivore]

I ask about AMC's Here is the response about AMC's

my question What is the purpose of Appraisal Management Companies?

Appraisal Management Companies (AMCs) play a crucial role in the real estate industry. Their primary purpose is to act as intermediaries between lenders, such as banks and mortgage companies, and independent real estate appraisers. Here are some of their key functions:

1. **Quality Control**: AMCs ensure that appraisals meet industry standards and are free from bias. This helps maintain the credibility and accuracy of the appraisal process.

2. **Compliance**: They help lenders comply with regulatory requirements, such as those set by the Dodd-Frank Act and the Appraiser Independence Requirements (AIR), which aim to prevent conflicts of interest in the appraisal process.

3. **Efficiency**: By managing the appraisal process, AMCs streamline operations for lenders. This includes selecting appropriate appraisers, coordinating appraisal orders, and reviewing completed appraisals for accuracy and completeness.

4. **Cost Management**: AMCs help manage the costs associated with appraisals by negotiating fees with appraisers and ensuring that lenders are charged fair prices for appraisal services.

5. **Risk Management**: By vetting appraisers and ensuring high-quality appraisals, AMCs help mitigate the risk of inaccurate valuations, which can lead to financial losses for lenders.

Overall, AMCs aim to enhance the reliability, compliance, and efficiency of the real estate appraisal process, benefiting both lenders and consumers.

Anything else you'd like to explore on this topic or something else on your mind?

Question It seems that AI could do this more efitiantly and cheaper.
You're onto something! AI has the potential to streamline many of the tasks currently handled by Appraisal Management Companies (AMCs). Here are a few ways AI could enhance the appraisal process:

1. **Automated Data Analysis**: AI can quickly analyze vast amounts of real estate data, including property values, market trends, and historical sales. This could provide more accurate and up-to-date appraisals.

2. **Risk Management**: AI algorithms can identify potential risks and discrepancies in appraisal reports, ensuring high-quality and consistent valuations.

3. **Efficiency**: AI-powered systems can manage the logistics of assigning appraisers, tracking appraisal orders, and reviewing completed appraisals much faster than human-managed processes.

4. **Compliance**: AI can help ensure appraisals meet regulatory requirements by automatically checking for compliance issues.

5. **Cost Savings**: By automating many tasks, AI can reduce the need for manual intervention, potentially lowering costs for lenders and consumers.

That said, the human element in the appraisal process is still vital. Experienced appraisers bring nuanced insights and judgment that AI might not fully replicate. A combination of human expertise and AI efficiency could be the key to the future of appraisals.

Would you like to explore more on this topic or discuss something else?

 

[Digger88]

Not true. Here is a recent comparison test of DeepSeek against ChatGPT-o1 ($20/month) and ChatGPT Pro ($200/month), Claude.

How does DeepSeek R1 really fare against OpenAI’s best reasoning models?

We run the LLMs through a gauntlet of tests, from creative writing to complex instruction.

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When you download DeepSeek to your computer, you will have both the inference and training code. Yes, you can have it train on your own data, such as large MLS downloads. The training takes more resources, so while the 32b model may work on your computer for inference, it may not work for training. Some guys have gone out and bought used computer chips and equipment to make their own 'super computer'. But, yea, with older equipment, they often have problems getting newer software to run.

When Apple comes out with a new Mac Studio M4 Ultra -- I am probably going to get one, if I have to get on my knees and beg my wife for money. - Not that that will work.

I really don't care if the gov is reading my boring emails though it's gross. But I couldn't fathom DL this to my pc isn't there a little worry coming from China

 

[Dublin ohio]

I really don't care if the gov is reading my boring emails though it's gross. But I couldn't fathom DL this to my pc isn't there a little worry coming from China

According to a couple of recent posts, Chinese products are the best thing since sliced bread

 

[RCA]

According to a couple of recent posts, Chinese products are the best thing since sliced bread

Ahhh, yes, the quality of many of their products is top and so is the price. A couple of years ago i bought a lot of photography gizmos from China. Excellent quality and workmanship. Good thing I did, as I am sure the price going up and I have to wonder if stocks are going run dry. However, there are a lot of Germans working in China. The set up shop there. Maybe that explains some of the quality. I am so tempted to be a DJI drone before it is too late. But honestly, right now I don't really need one. My DJI Phantom IV works just fine.

 

[Bobby Bucks]

A fun question for the ChiCom program would be to query why TSM stock (Taiwan Semiconductor) has performed so well. Warning, you may have a ChiCom truth squad at your doorstep within minutes.

 

[RCA]

I really don't care if the gov is reading my boring emails though it's gross. But I couldn't fathom DL this to my pc isn't there a little worry coming from China

It's Open Source, and you can be sure there are plenty of American software engineers studying the code. They would be able to easily discover any code that sends messages via a number of different gateways. And you would have heard about it by now. China is just showing off. They can do more of the same. So can American engineers.

 

[cpursley]

It's Open Source, and you can be sure there are plenty of American software engineers studying the code. They would be able to easily discover any code that sends messages via a number of different gateways. And you would have heard about it by now. China is just showing off. They can do more of the same. So can American engineers.

Yeah, exactly. You can run it on your own machine even with the internet off. Ollama is pretty great for that if you have the hardware for it and can handle a cli.

Wild enough, the Chinese are more "open" with their AI work than "Open" AI (ChatGPT) and Claude (my favorite). They publish a lot of research that anyone can read.
Additionally, DeepSeek is scoring really well on various benchmarks: https://fireworks.AI/blog/deepseek-r1-deepdive

Also, Perplexity.AI has integrated it as a Pro option and R1 is run on American servers. So far, I'm really impressed but still us Claude for most tasks.