Drone rangers slap Realtors with subpoenas

[Stephen J. Vertin MAI]

We have one broker around here using them on his listings.

He gets a little crazy in the backyard on this one:
http://centralpahomefinder.com/defau...ting_off_id=56

Surprised this didn't get shot down:
http://centralpahomefinder.com/defau...ting_off_id=56

How about a 'I make my own rules' meme MHT?

Followed the links but there was no drone action?

 

[bnmappraisal]

I just received a spam email the other day about a company offering drone photography around the Tampa Bay area for Realtors to offer a "different view" to their clients, especially along waterfront properties. I can see their point, but I don't like the idea. I agree with Mile High. I'll take the street scene any day over some machine flying over my back yard while I'm .. in my pool

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Drones have to register with the FAA when used commercially...nothing new. The problem is that a few of these drones are quite large, and fly very high. At least 2 commercial aircraft have seen them well over the height limit experimental aircraft should fly.

It is not necessarily easy to obtain permits and 90% of Realtors who are using them likely are unaware they are regulated. Even farmers using them to monitor crops are on the edge of the law....best read the rules first.

 

[Amy Perkins]

Anyways, it's a stupid argument.

We have a right to privacy as American citizens.

It's disrespectful for people to violate that, regardless of the cause or reasoning.

Violating privacy is fightin words. More severe than religion and politics combined.

A street pic is entirely different. As long as the drone stays on the street, and does not climb to unusual angles, that's cool.

If I stood outside of your home on a 50 foot ladder with a zoom camera, would you be cool with that? Same thing as using a drone. If I used a zip line from neigbor to neighbor, and hung over your rear porch, it would be the same action as using a remote controlled drone. That's really how you should think of these issues. Break your corporate mind control.

The tool by which someone violates privacy is inconsequential. The consequential act, is the act of violating privacy itself.

Did you read the latest stories about tin foil hat classification, and it's mis use?

Performed internationally, with respect to Americans. There is so much disclosure out there already, regarding criminality exposed, that you're actually more likely to be insane, if you still believe all the government propoganda and rhetoric. According to external international observers, the 'tin foil hat' Americans, are the only sane ones of the bunch. And the numbers are growing. Want some juicy news, seek out the latest 'bankster' info regarding the world bank. Too juicy for even me to post outright.

I can tell you that hackers scope out cameras all over and they are being misused by a bunch of pranksters.

 

[Meandering]

Here you go MHT,

The cyborgs are coming! US researchers reveal tiny robot that walks using a strip of lab-grown muscle cells

Robot can move by flexing skeletal muscle grafted onto it
Could lead to new generation of biological robots


It is the cyborg of the robot world, made up of both biological and mechanical parts.
Researchers have unveiled the first walking robot powered by live muscle.
The muscle is able to flex so the robot can propel itself across a lab - and researchers say it could lead to a new generation of flexible 'biobots'.

'Biological actuation driven by cells is a fundamental need for any kind of biological machine you want to build,' said study leader Rashid Bashir, Abel Bliss Professor and head of bioengineering at the U. of I.

'We’re trying to integrate these principles of engineering with biology in a way that can be used to design and develop biological machines and systems for environmental and medical applications.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ot-controlled-live-MUSCLES.html#ixzz36HM26g9c


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[Stephen J. Vertin MAI]

I think the cyborg story has a moral ending or possibly beginning depending on your view. You are never going to stop the future. We were always taught in business school watch for economic waves and ride them if you seek to become financially independent.

Both drones and cyborg technology have good and bad. Bad we have talked about but there are good things also. It helps you to get a better idea of the overall condition of the facility making wiser appraisal adjustment choices, thereby, securing America's future banking solvency. As an appraiser to me (not bad) as a home owner (possible problems). It also gives you a good view of the neighborhood surroundings (as an appraiser good) as an adjacent property owners (possible problems).

From a purely professional view the tool is great, from a broader societal view, issues exist (no argument). As far as drones crashing into one another they are saying auto pilot driven cars are going to be 80 percent of road traffic by 2040. I am sure air way collision can be prevented. There is considerable more lead way than there is in US highways.

My honest point of view is this stuff is coming no matter what we think. You either take advantage of it or refuse to participant. Or if you are a radical there are a million ways to show dissatisfaction. There are also a number of outcomes (some good and many not so good).

The point is drone technology may put curbside views into a functional obsolesces category. Are you telling me if military uses drones in making life and death decisions the technology is not good enough to tell me about a simple comparable and surroundings? Good luck with that lame ***** argument sometime in the future.

So what does this all mean. If your competitors are using drones and you are driving around who has the economic advantage? Prime example, 35 mm virus digital cameras. As they say in Chicago "I ain't paying no $1.00 per reprint when I can print all I want for free on my computer". Which one won? Status-Quo or technology?

 

[Meandering]

You're right.

Things change all the time. But what's really changed is that now we have a government afraid of us, and spies on us. So if technology evens the playing field, they just can't have that.

There was never an issue with remote controlled air planes. My dad used to take us as kids to watch the guys fly them from a small air strip in a corn field. Even before that, my grandmother used to take us to see the remote controlled boat races at a community pond.

But now with a camera, they suddenly need regulation. They are a threat, because the government has them and figured out a way to make them deadly, and one day, one of us will too.

Imagine trying to be a SS guy protecting the Prez, and these drone things are flying around. If you think the Kennedy shooting was a fiasco, think what the future will be unless the government takes control of the technology.

I'm not afraid of it. I'm afraid for my grandchildren.

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[FalconfanKen]

Anyways, it's a stupid argument.

A street pic is entirely different. As long as the drone stays on the street, and does not climb to unusual angles, that's cool.


I'm not sure I see society agreeing to this. What if you saw one of these little buggers fly up in front of your house today? You wouldn't feel your privacy is being violated? Eye in the sky looking down at you? And what if it is recording audio as well?

 

[J Grant]

I think there are too many security and privacy issues to ever allow drones to just fly around taking videos and photos etc. Yes, a drone can be used to take a fly by comp photo by an appraiser; it can also be used by a pederast to take photos of little kids in the bedroom window or out by the pool. Far too creepy, too invasive, too able to be subverted by hackers. What a great way for a criminal to scope out a house...have the drone fly by, picks up no live movement or sound in the house, then go break and enter. Never going to happen, though drones will have other uses, and perhaps more covert surveillance use by govt/FBI.

What a great hit man idea though...program a drone to go kill someone, now that would be a hard crime to solve ( at least for now)

 

[J Grant]

Stalkers, child molesters, criminals, and just the bored who like to snoop can use drones if allowed out on the loose....they always find a way to subvert and use any new technology. People would have to hide behind heavy drapes, keep their kids away from the window or inside, speak in whispers lest audio technology from the drones pick up their conversation. Never, ever going to happen.