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Economic Impact Of Hurricanes

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What is galling - regardless of the cause of hurricanes is how all these waterfront homes that are destroyed or seriously impacted are allowed to be rebuilt. Over and over again. Non waterfront property owners incur the financial burden of these rebuilds re HO and flood insurance.
 
Good Lord, some folks with a tenuous grasp of the English language keep talking of "cause!" Get a grip folks and maybe brush up on your English.
 
No one has claimed human activity "caused" the hurricanes but did contribute to their severity.

Many have claimed human activity has caused climate change and also makes it worse.

But, as three climate specialists – including Prof Michael Mann, distinguished professor of atmospheric science at Pennsylvania State University – summarise in the Washington Post: “the strongest hurricanes have gotten stronger because of global warming”. This is, ultimately, a result of global greenhouse gas emissions, they note:

“Hurricanes get their energy from warm ocean waters, and the oceans are warming because of the human-caused buildup of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere.”

https://www.carbonbrief.org/media-reaction-hurricane-irma-climate-change

You see, your favorite climate scientist makes that connection clear for you Pete. Oceans are warm thereby creating hurricanes. Humans emit greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gases cause the oceans to warm. Warm oceans create hurricanes and makes them stronger.
 
Many have claimed human activity has caused climate change and also makes it worse.

But, as three climate specialists – including Prof Michael Mann, distinguished professor of atmospheric science at Pennsylvania State University – summarise in the Washington Post: “the strongest hurricanes have gotten stronger because of global warming”. This is, ultimately, a result of global greenhouse gas emissions, they note:

“Hurricanes get their energy from warm ocean waters, and the oceans are warming because of the human-caused buildup of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere.”

https://www.carbonbrief.org/media-reaction-hurricane-irma-climate-change

You see, your favorite climate scientist makes that connection clear for you Pete. Oceans are warm thereby creating hurricanes. Humans emit greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gases cause the oceans to warm. Warm oceans create hurricanes and makes them stronger.

What I do see, once again, is your failure to understand the English language. Cause and contributing to are two different things. If you had a grasp of the language you might understand that but it apparently is a hopeless cause.

Man has exacerbated the situation (i.e. "hurricanes...have gotten stronger....") as Dr. Mann points out. That's not the same as "causing." Sorry you're so recalcitrant that you have to keep repeating the same distorted point. The funny thing is you keep agreeing with my point yet twist the language into something it's not in a futile attempt to disagree with me.

You are priceless.
 
Cause and contributing to are two different things. If you had a grasp of the language you might understand that but it apparently is a hopeless cause.

cause - a person or thing that gives rise to an action, phenomenon, or condition.

contribute - help to cause or bring about.

Seems like you need to go back to school to learn how human activities contribute to help cause hurricanes and makes them worse. :)

Man has exacerbated the situation (i.e. "hurricanes...have gotten stronger....")

So hurricanes have not increased in frequency, just intensity? We should see more CAT 5 hurricanes and the same number of storms overall?

“There’s never an ideal time to talk about how climate change is magnifying some of these natural disasters,” says Michael Mann.

Mann and other climate scientists say that climate change has intensified these storms so much that we need a new set of guideposts. Predictions we could’ve made in the past are no longer accurate, and the rules that used to help us plan for events like Harvey no longer apply.

There’s very little doubt among scientists that climate change has ratcheted up the potential intensity of hurricanes and other large storms, Mann says.

The contrast between warm temperatures at the surface of the ocean and cold temperatures at different layers in the atmosphere determine the intensity of hurricanes, he says.

To understand how that happens, we can think of hurricanes as “heat engines.” At the start of a hurricane, warm air near the surface of the ocean rises, leaving a pocket of lower pressure air below. Other air from surrounding areas fills that pocket, and in turn warms and rises. As this cycle continues, “new” air swirls as it replaces the air that rises from the pocket. Meanwhile, the warm, moist air in the sky then forms a system of clouds, which spins and grows like an engine feeding off heat.

The contrast in surface and aloft temperatures drives that engine, and, thanks to global warming, surface temperatures are rising significantly. “It’s making those heat engines more efficient,” says Mann. And with more efficient heat engines come more intense storms.

“The old rules don’t apply anymore,” said Mann. “We’re no longer talking about chance alone. We’ve loaded the dice. We’ve loaded the weather dice by warming the planet and intensifying these storms."

“We’re going to continue, in principle, to see worse and worse events of this sort,” says Mann. “Stronger storms producing even greater amounts of rainfall if we continue to warm the planet and warm the oceans. So, needless to say, the only thing that’s going to stop that cycle is acting on climate change and moving away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy.”

https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/hurricane-harvey-and-the-new-normal/
 
I'd check with the local community college--some English language lessons might help you out.

A world of difference between "a" cause and "the" cause. Fairly simple language but given that English is apparently your second language, your confusion is understandable.
 
I'd check with the local community college--some English language lessons might help you out.

A world of difference between "a" cause and "the" cause. Fairly simple language but given that English is apparently your second language, your confusion is understandable.

Because you do not understand what Dr Mann stated in his articles of how hurricanes form, and the feedback of heat from the ocean, I see you have to parse words to say there is no connection in forming a storm and its growth into serious stages until it reaches a category 5.

Therefore, now worries about global warming since it does not cause anything to happen, only contribute to what would have happened anyway.
 
Pete has the same pompous arse certainty that hurricane intensity is directly related to human input into the environment as he does that Hillary was going to be president and that Zaio was a viable venture and not a sham seeking to separate investor/idiots from their capital. Hardly a rock solid base of intellectual consideration with a track record of successful prediction of future outcomes. Conversely, following the advice and "wisdom" of a known loser is likely to cause future losses. Losers chasing losers results in losers. Pete is a Loser and it eats at him....
 
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The humor in Pete's understanding of global warming, the contribution to storms is unknown. They can't be predicted. They can't say how much of a hurricane's intensity was human CO2 versus what happens naturally. Therefore no causation, just a minor, infinitesimal contribution that can't be separated from nature. :rof:
 
EXCLUSIVE: The A-list celebrities who turned up at a telethon to raise funds for those affected by Hurricanes Harvey and Irma have been clocking up hundreds of thousands of air miles contributing to the global climate linked to the devastating floods. Tuesday night's Hand in Hand: A Benefit for Hurricane Harvey Relief telethon brought together stars from around the world in a bid to raise millions of dollars for those affected by Hurricanes Harvey and Irma. The hour-long special included performances and messages from A-list celebrities including Beyoncé, Justin Bieber, George Clooney, Cher and Leonardo DiCaprio, all asking viewers to donate to help with relief from the disastrous storms that hit the southern US. But an exclusive MailOnline investigation has revealed the stars could well have contributed to the catastrophic weather phenomenons with their jet-setting lifestyles. Justin Bieber is thought to have travelled at least 136,000 miles, active environmentalist DiCaprio is believed to have done more than 87,000 in a plane with fellow actor Clooney just behind with 61,000 guzzling tonnes of CO2 along the way.

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