FANNIE bonds with AMCs, over your dead low paid body.

[Non Sequitur]

What absolute moron (or liar) came up with that first line? Or the 3rd line?

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Go ahead and ask him:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/appraiserforum/permalink/26330356026653932/?

 

[George Hatch]

Which pimp stated that the appraiser sets the fee?

"If you won't do it we'll just find someone else who will". Because they could in fact find that someone else who would.

 

[George Hatch]

Go ahead and ask him:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/appraiserforum/permalink/26330356026653932/?

Feel free to tell them they're factually incorrect (MBs are not lenders) and that saying so makes them a moron. Or (if they actually do know better) a liar.

 

[Non Sequitur]

Feel free to tell them they're factually incorrect (MBs are not lenders) and that saying so makes them a moron. Or (if they actually do know better) a liar.

What would pointing out one thing in all of the content he’s pumping out accomplish? He’s supporting boots on the ground appraisers, some grace is deserved.

 

[George Hatch]

I don't call trafficking in obvious untruths "supportive" of appraisers. But since we're on the topic of grace, kindly note that I didn't contradict anything else in the graphic. Just the one untruth that popped out at first glance.

But hey, if you want to discuss a couple other factual untruths, saying that Cuomo of forced AMCs on lenders or that D-F locked in AMCs is also a blatant untruth.

HVCC = GSEs saying or agreeing to "we will not accept"
D-F = Lenders and the GSEs "are prohibited from using"
Lenders = "we choose this" is lenders making a choice, not lenders having no choice

Neither D-F nor the HVCC ever required lenders to use AMCs. There are no regs or agreements that require lenders to use AMCs. Saying or implying otherwise is factually incorrect. Now a lot of appraisers might believe that to be a justifiable mode of discourse but advocacy-by-unthruth is a very different beast than factually accurate and objective. You know, like we are required to do in our day job.

 

[Non Sequitur]

I don't call trafficking in obvious untruths "supportive" of appraisers. But since we're on the topic of grace, kindly note that I didn't contradict anything else in the graphic. Just the one untruth that popped out at first glance.

But hey, if you want to discuss a couple other factual untruths, saying that Cuomo of forced AMCs on lenders or that D-F locked in AMCs is also a blatant untruth.

HVCC = GSEs saying or agreeing to "we will not accept"
D-F = Lenders and the GSEs "are prohibited from using"
Lenders = "we choose this" is lenders making a choice, not lenders having no choice

Neither one of them require lenders to use AMCs. There are no regs or agreements that require lenders to use AMCs. Saying or implying otherwise is factually incorrect. Now a lot of appraisers might believe that to be a justifiable mode of discourse but advocacy-by-unthruth is a very different beast than factually accurate and objective. You know, like we are required to do in our day job.

Desperate times, desperate measures. And it ain’t like the other side is playing fair either.

 

[George Hatch]

Desperate times, desperate measures. And it ain’t like the other side is playing fair either.

On the one hand I agree - they don't play fair. However, the difference is that they also don't sell their credibility and integrity and objectivity as their primary selling point.

 

[TerryRohrer]

they also don't sell their credibility and integrity and objectivity as their primary selling point.

Nor is that high on the list (if it made it) of demands they are making of their preferred "partners."

 

[gregb]

However, the difference is that they also don't sell their credibility and integrity and objectivity as their primary selling point.

And TAF traffics in AMC bs claiming appraiser bias and a shortage of appraisers while "building public trust"...

https://www.appraisers.org/asa-newsroom/asa-blog/asa-blog/2025/02/07/the-appraisal-foundation-takes-action-to-build-trust--stamp-out-bias-(arm-e-journal---2024---volume-8---issue-1)

 

[Surf Cat]

In the end, it’s about fees and always has been about fees.

I beg to differ on this....it "was" also about being independent, impartial, and unbiased in giving an opinion of market value.

"Now" we are using their comps, their software to determine adjustments that state "what your peers used" for GLA adjustments.....not what the market states.

I always used to see the term "form fillers" kicked around here on the Forum for years. In all my time being a licensed appraiser, I never felt more like a form filler than I did working for AMCs. It was never this bad in the mortgage broker days.

AMC's treat appraisal reports as mere paperwork to satisfy lenders, rather than conducting thorough, independent analysis. On top of this.....yeah... the fees are insulting.