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The EU vs. the credit rating agencies

http://www.euinside.eu/en/analyses/the-eu-vs-the-credit-rating-agencies

After months of tension between the European Union and the credit rating agencies (CRAs), after some unambiguous threats by the agencies and sharp comments by Brussels, the European Union officially announced that it would pursue “the line of reducing the over-reliance on external credit ratings”.

In fact, there are three major credit rating agencies, which dominate the global financial market - Moody's, Standard & Poor's and Fitch. It depends on their assessment into what financial instruments investors will put their money. Moreover, since the ratings are used by regulators and financial institutions in their regulatory requirements, the power of agencies is growing enormously - to the extent to hold the financial stability of entire economies hostage.

On July 20, 2011 the European Commission proposed new rules to better regulate the banking sector, part of which is reducing dependence on external credit ratings. “We are too dependent on credit rating agencies. As a result, I wish to suppress as much as possible the reference to credit ratings in the prudential rules. This is essential for financial stability,” Commissioner Michel Barnier said. He explained that the goal is “the banks to lead their own risk analyses, without relying mechanically on credit rating agencies.” The Commission will come forward soon with a new legislative initiative, dedicated to sovereign debt ratings.
 
S&P Action Clouds Obama Re-Election Bid

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...election-bid-even-as-it-damages-congress.html

The Obama administration worked yesterday to reassure investors around the world that Treasury securities remain a safe place to invest and sought to limit any negative effects on the economy, in part by criticizing S&P, according to an administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
 
That is true the vast majority of the time because generally the "herd" is just guessing or following rumors. Rarely does the market move based on established, solid facts because it is moving based on what will happen in the future. History shows that most people get it wrong when predicting the future so doing the opposite of "most people" will be right. (Here is where your mind should be going to the scene from The Princes Bride where Wesley and Vazzini are discussing a poisoned glass of wine. :rof: )

The best market strategy is to do your own analysis of companies and make decisions based on your analysis of that company while disregarding the actions of everyone else. A disregard for the actions of others is the only "immunity" for market swings. Above all never forget value only matters when you buy or sell.

The only time the action of a ratings agency should change your actions is when the requirement is written into your bylaws. :new_all_coholic:

Yes, being the "Lone-Wolf" has it's advantages, and yes, there is the "bylaws" issue; as well as, the "Buy Laws" issue and the "Inlaws" issue" (ooops, I digressed).

Perhaps we should just Ditch Moody's, Fitch & S&P rating agencies and have them replaced with Equifax, Experian & TransUnion, that way, we could probably restore a little trust in them.

It would make for interesting conversation:

"Sheesh!, Look CouchPotato!, it's right here in the Sunday Headline!

"PRASERCAT, a Humble Colorado Appraiser, HAS A HIGHER CREDIT SCORE THAN FRANCE! - according to Experian and TransUnion".
- France is currently in negotiations with Praser for a possible loan deal. Details not immediately available.
 
Yes, being the "Lone-Wolf" has it's advantages, and yes, there is the "bylaws" issue; as well as, the "Buy Laws" issue and the "Inlaws" issue" (ooops, I digressed).

Perhaps we should just Ditch Moody's, Fitch & S&P rating agencies and have them replaced with Equifax, Experian & TransUnion, that way, we could probably restore a little trust in them.

It would make for interesting conversation:

"Sheesh!, Look CouchPotato!, it's right here in the Sunday Headline!

"PRASERCAT, a Humble Colorado Appraiser, HAS A HIGHER CREDIT SCORE THAN FRANCE! - according to Experian and TransUnion".
- France is currently in negotiations with Praser for a possible loan deal. Details not immediately available.
:rof::rof::rof:
 
The double helix of dollar velocities

.... now ... if I were some guy in some think tank somewhere .......

... they probably have this whole new currency scheme ready to be unveiled .....

..... its a system that controls inflation for existing paper currency, yet at the same time allows for hyer-inflation of the currency in another form ....... a digital form ......

... so, lets say you have large cash positions in banks ....... you start charging negative interest on those positions ...

... digital dollars go into effect at the same time .....

.. what I mean by this is not even quite apparent to me ....

... but think about it .....

... they finally realised true fiat dream for a reserve currency is when .......

... the digital infrastructure of the world allows for two simultaneous systems to occur when it comes to the velocity of a single currency .....

... the paper currency velocity is controlled and slowed down by negative interest rate when held in cash forms ...

... but digital dollars take on a new - never before seen property .. that is only possible in a digital world ..

... a world that has come to terms with the fact that there are enough resources for everyone ..... if digital currency is transmitted in a CODE FORM ....

.... let digital currency hyper-inflate to infinite ...

...then let distributed digital dollars take on a code form that has weighted value based on the code ......

...debts are paid off ....

.... paper money has no inflation and the world tranforms ...

... the world is able to benefit from technology afterall .... and the old laws money and resources are bent to suit an intelegent form of life that seeks to evolve

... a world that no longer is bounds by "scarcity" - in terms of the human needs and wants to sustain a stable world society ...

...


.. you want pie in the sky ?

..you want optomisim?

..I give you optimism ...

... surely we got people working on this "new financial system ..." ........ this new world ... this new cosmology ...
 
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$1 Billion bet in July of US downgrade brings questions of insider information

http://www.examiner.com/finance-exa...grade-brings-questions-of-insider-information

That's the way it is these days, every time somebody wins big they have to prove they did it honestly. More likely the investor merely used their brain and invested appropriately. If I had a net worth of 50 billion, or was managing that amount or more, I would have made the same investment. I had no more information than everyone else on this forum, and I made a similar investment although with a much smaller sum since I don't have anywhere near that much laying around. Just because someone has the guts to place their bet and wins does not mean the game is fixed.
 
That's the way it is these days, every time somebody wins big they have to prove they did it honestly. More likely the investor merely used their brain and invested appropriately. If I had a net worth of 50 billion, or was managing that amount or more, I would have made the same investment. I had no more information than everyone else on this forum, and I made a similar investment although with a much smaller sum since I don't have anywhere near that much laying around. Just because someone has the guts to place their bet and wins does not mean the game is fixed.
Riiiiiight! So when are you going to share those billions? :rof:
 
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