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Good news and bad news for California

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/22/MNVL1L7QKT.DTL

The Bad News: California's median household income plunged 6 percent to $57,708 between 2006, before the recession and housing implosion hit, and last year, according to the Census Bureau. Throughout the United States, the income figure fell 4.4 percent.

The Good News: None of the core Bay Area counties did as badly as the rest of California. In fact, household income actually rose 1.5 percent in San Francisco and 4.6 percent in Contra Costa County.

The poverty rate, revealed by the census last week to be 15.8 percent in California, hasn't hit that rate yet in the core Bay Area counties. Given that 75% of the population of the state lives in southern California, it's time to give that part of the state back to Mexico.
 
Romney will stabilize gold if it can be done

Recently someone mentioned that gold would be called in by the FEDS ...... this may have affected the enthusiam towards gold ....

.... if the entire world financial system fails ... then gold will be the best place to be or silver .... there will be no authority to call in peoples holdings of metal ..... this is the worst case senario ......

...... the urban centric can not imagine a cosmology where the world is no longer under central financial control ...... urban straw folks are largely a function of government intervention .....

...this is why I am changing support from Perry to Romney ........ Perry would be too divisive for a workable US state ......... while I am way to the right .......... I'd rather see a Romney keep the country together and call in the gold holdings than a Perry who has no consensus in congress.
 
I'd rather see a Romney keep the country together
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I just watched part of the Republican debate. I came away with the idea that the future is to not hold the country together. Examples: Return education to the states; return medical care to the states; return immigration to the states because the feds won't touch it; end federal regulations on business etc.
We have been brainwashed in this country to believe that the country is defined by the federal government. It is not. We would have a much better life if the federal government was restricted to defense and uniformity of economic and business laws. America is defined by its vision of freedom of the individual as opposed to the collective state.
The different regions of the country have conflicting interest to wit, the Civil War. The tax restrictions on imports to protect the industrial north resulted in the South paying the import taxes indirectly. New England and the northeast are a completely different breed of bird with nothing in common with the rest of the country. California and the left coast are birds of a different spirit. Why force a bad marriage? If the partners are incompatible end the marriage and move on. :peace:
 
Austin said:
I just watched part of the Republican debate. I came away with the idea that the future is to not hold the country together. Examples: Return education to the states; return medical care to the states; return immigration to the states because the feds won't touch it; end federal regulations on business etc.
We have been brainwashed in this country to believe that the country is defined by the federal government. It is not. We would have a much better life if the federal government was restricted to defense and uniformity of economic and business laws. America is defined by its vision of freedom of the individual as opposed to the collective state.
The different regions of the country have conflicting interest to wit, the Civil War. The tax restrictions on imports to protect the industrial north resulted in the South paying the import taxes indirectly. New England and the northeast are a completely different breed of bird with nothing in common with the rest of the country. California and the left coast are birds of a different spirit. Why force a bad marriage? If the partners are incompatible end the marriage and move on. :peace:
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"In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to preserve, protect, and defend it.

I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

Abraham Lincoln, March 4, 1861, From His First Inaugural Address.


On that horrible September day Andrew Card whispered into the Presidents ear, "America is under attack" I'm proud and thankful that he saw his duty clear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

You have been brainwashed to believe that the federal government of the United States is to blame for your discontent, and refuse to see that you would not be free to utter the pap you do in most other quarters of the globe.

Remember you do not need to convince a region, a state, a city or a town that secession from the Union is the right thing for them to do, you only need the courage of your own convictions, No man is an Island but why don't you give it a try. I'd like to see how far you could go, individually and geographically.
In other words don't let the door hit you in the ***. Peace Out.
 
The current status of goverance in this country is ripe for an American Spring. The forefathers, in their wisdom, foresaw such events, and that is why the Second Amendment exists - to insure that government does not degenerate into a Monarchy or dictatorship.
A nation can be diverse without being divided, but that is the result of compromise. We are now in a position where neither the Left nor the Right is willing to compromise, but the vast majority of citizens, yet, remain neither European socialists nor Militiamen running around in cammies...just as many people remained "Tories" in the Revolutionary War and "Mountain Unionists" held W. VA and parts of the Ozarks...Jones Co. Mississippi was clearly Union as was much of Tennessee. We have always been divided, but the anxiety of economic woes that favor the bank/rich against the Main Street poor, is as devisive an issue that has existed in my life, and that includes the angst of Vietnam.

If it were up to the politicos, we would divide clearly. Why? The same reason there were food riots in the depression and WWI vets who protested were shot dead in front of the White House circa 1932. They got their promised bonds and spent it, fueling a brief revival of the economy which was crushed by the tax increase that went with the implimentation of Social Security. We went into recession with the passing of Medicare. We are in recession and perhaps depression (this is an 11 year bear market by some metrics) in part for the impending debt crisis that will occur when Obamacare is implimented.
So...what will we do? It's a choice. Austin and CoolHand have laid out those choices. Choose.
 
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...........You have been brainwashed to believe that the federal government of the United States is to blame for your discontent..........
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The federal government is way too big. We send our education money to the feds so they can take their inflated bureaucratic slice of the pie and then tell us how to spend it. We send money to the feds so they can give it back to us to fix roads. Why do we need to pay their high wages and benefits to tell us how to fix roads?

Why is the federal government trying to regulate dust and tractor noise in a county (not a town or a township but an entire COUNTY) of 6,000 people?

The government has determined that everyone is now entitled to a free cell phone at the expense of the tax payer.

If we keep government at the same level it is the question is not IF we will have the problems of Greece, it is only a question of WHEN we will become Greece.

Our current economic situation is further challenging in that the baby boomers will be a huge strain on our government for the next 30 years. If the American economy fails, the world economy fails.
 
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The federal government is way too big. We send our education money to the feds so they can take their inflated bureaucratic slice of the pie and then tell us how to spend it. We send money to the feds so they can give it back to us to fix roads. Why do we need to pay their high wages and benefits to tell us how to fix roads?

Why is the federal government trying to regulate dust and tractor noise in a county (not a town or a township but an entire COUNTY) of 6,000 people?

The government has determined that everyone is now entitled to a free cell phone at the expense of the tax payer.

If we keep government at the same level it is the question is not IF we will have the problems of Greece, it is only a question of WHEN we will become Greece.

Our current economic situation is further challenging in that the baby boomers will be a huge strain on our government for the next 30 years. If the American economy fails, the world economy fails.
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Yep, too big! Should have left Chrysler to die a slow death so that the "market" (which is never wrong) would have done the right thing!
 
Perry smerks too much for adults

I'd rather have 50 states ... each being its own country and Herman Caine being the guy who forms a whole new idea.

But Herman Caine is the goldilocks world ..... I wish it were that way , but it ain't ..

.. Perry smerks too much for my taste .... like he knows something we don't know ..... just a little boy in a grown up shirt .....

..... and I have tired of this dementia that has matastasised itself to Evangelicals ..... ie: a George Bush Jr. and a Perry ... they talk a little slow ... with a little twang ...... ... which is OK ...... its just when what comes out is the sensibilities of overgrown boys .....

.... I think Romney will talk to the left and govern to the right ... Perry will talk to the right and govern to the left.

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..................... I think it started going downhill after the Constitution was ratified in 1789 ...... the Gettysburg Address was another nail in the coffin limited government ...

... then our grandfathers sold their soul to FDR .........

.... we are not in 1776 ...... in 1776 we had people who relied on themselves ....

... today we have a bunch of souless hacks .... pieces of humanoid flesh that consume infused in there cornia is the great dad called Uncle Santa Claus ...... who bought our ancestors souls before we were born .........

.... but thats just how I see it .....

.... I don't think a hoe and some seed is going to save me .......

.... my root ... my people are long gone ....
 
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