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Global Economy Bursting?

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why isn't the nat gas price rising given your scenario?
Ah, you're an appraiser. "Cost" does not equal "Value". In fact, the shale drillers have been wildly successful. That's why gas is cheap. Nat gas was $9 5 years ago, the cost of horizontal drilling has fell on a per MCF basis since the technique developed. The downturn also hurt demand. Demand relates to industrial uses. As gas got high, those "dual fuel" power plants that could begin using coal.

Now coal is being whacked by new powerplant rules that go into effect Jan 1, 2015, so gas is cheaper and easier to meet the 2015 standards. So the pendelum appears (imho) to be ready to swing back the other way. Such swings are slow so we won't notice for a while. But about the time the new nat gas autos hit the road as hundreds of new gas refueling stations are built and power plants gear up on gas and the economy recovers....nat gas will get high again.

Politically, the debate is drill baby drill v. the supply is dwindling anyway let's go with something else is absolutely the stupidest debate in the world on both sides. First, you do have to drill baby drill to find the gas and oil that is still here. Secondly, it can only be a bridge energy to a new paradigm. Will the brave new oil free world be using LESS energy??? or more? Where will it come from? Do we rip up the high plains and plant it in corn? The cellulose ethanol experiment just closed. In Texas this summer the 60,000 mgw windmill capacity from July 30th to Aug 4th produced just 10% of its capacity because of calm winds in the worst drought in that state in decades. Can you depend upon that? Hydrogen is almost impossible to store, its molecules are so small it literally soaks thru a steel container like water from a canvas bag.

Today the drilling has shifted to horizontal drilling of "oily" plays because oil prices remain high...very high. That is a function of the turmoil that exists in the places that have oil - the Middle East. Gasoline is literally dictating the price of oil instead of the other way around. The tail is wagging the dog.

Libya was 3% of the oil in the world. It is almost entirely offline and will remain so for at least 2 more years by most estimates. That oil was very light and produces an extraordinarily high percent of gasoline and was a major contributor to the gasoline supply of Europe. Europe is now having to pay a premium for oil to refine and their largest refiner just filed bankruptcy. That pulls supplies from the Saudis and Nigeria that we normally buy, so we pay more.

The dark side of the oil play here is that those oil plays are also producing a lot of associated gas with the oil so they are adding to the natural gas glut at the same time they are producing oil. BTW, if we were not producing Bakken oil, Eagle Ford oil and oil from the other "shale oil" plays the price of crude oil would likely top $150.

IF Israel gets enough (and they are very close) they will bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities. And if they do then oil will top $150 a bbl.

So we have a supply driven price for oil. And a demand driven cap for natural gas. The historic ratio between the two relates to the amount of BTUs in each. That ratio is roughly 10:1 ( a bbl. of oil has 10x the energy of a 1000 CU. Ft. of nat gas). That varies with the quality and impurities in each but overall, that ratio has pretty much held for decades. It showed signs of breaking down in the mid 00s and from 2008 on has pretty much went from 10:1 to 25:1. So obviously natural gas is cheap as well as cleaner energy.

Refueling an auto is the problem. You can compress natural gas but it still takes about 10 - 15 minutes to refuel. You can compress it to liquid and refuel faster and store it in a smaller tank but that tank is very high pressure and when you compress it, like any good air conditioner compressor, the escaping gas gets extremely cold. To refuel requires a mask and gloves because the temperature is like 200 below zero and would freeze your flesh instantly. I don't see this as an easy "self-service" option but then again, I recall the day when NOBODY - I mean nobody touched a gas pump except the attendant. Frankly, I miss those days.
 
Terrel, if this appraisal gig goes south for you, you most certainly have a talent for writing interesting and informative columns on these subjects.

I love reading your posts. You have an amazing knowledge base and grasp for the macro.
 
Propane, Propane, And I Say Propane

Worked For Years, Now Self Service In Ukraine.
 
I just listened to Jim Cramer interview a engine maker executive who said the high cost of natural gas engines related to the fuel cylinders which are hugely expensive (about $15,000 for a truck) and they expect the price of those to drop dramatically. The engine itself is cheaper than a diesel engine. Waste Management bought 80% new nat gas vehicles this year. Natural gas refilling will happen and when it does the conversion from diesel to natural gas will be as quick as that of trucks going from gas engines to diesel in the 1960s. The exec also said that gas companies like Chesapeake energy are wanting all their own vehicles to be natural gas fueled. And that they now have their first commercially viable natural gas powered train engine under construction.
 
Aren't you all glad the DOW keeps playing with 13,000? Analyst keeps says we are concerned with Greece. Screw Greece...and use lots of it.
 
Eeesh, this may not go so well. :huh:

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So much happening on the energy front.... Third Industrial revolution. Can't help but believe it will pull us out of the abyss.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120223183809.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120223182646.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120222114500.htm

and then there is this:
"It takes a lot of energy to extract heavy, viscous and valuable bitumen from Canada's oil sands"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120222154641.htm
 
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I just listened to Jim Cramer interview a engine maker executive who said the high cost of natural gas engines related to the fuel cylinders which are hugely expensive (about $15,000 for a truck) and they expect the price of those to drop dramatically. The engine itself is cheaper than a diesel engine. Waste Management bought 80% new nat gas vehicles this year. Natural gas refilling will happen and when it does the conversion from diesel to natural gas will be as quick as that of trucks going from gas engines to diesel in the 1960s. The exec also said that gas companies like Chesapeake energy are wanting all their own vehicles to be natural gas fueled. And that they now have their first commercially viable natural gas powered train engine under construction.

http://www.intgas.com/aboutbilling/ngv.html
 
So much happening on the energy front.... Third Industrial revolution. Can't help but believe it will pull us out of the abyss.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120223183809.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120223182646.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120222114500.htm

and then there is this:
"It takes a lot of energy to extract heavy, viscous and valuable bitumen from Canada's oil sands"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120222154641.htm

Replacing Electricity With Light

Really old news.

Capacitor's High-Speed Energy Storage Discovered

Again, old news.

These ideas have been around for more than a decade.

In time, like 20 years from now, there might be commercialization of light processing. But that won't help in the short term or medium term.

The capacitor idea has been around for 30 years. They seem to have great difficulty making defect free thin film piezo electric plates.


Physicists Create a Working Transistor From a Single Atom

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/20/s...e-atom.html?_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha23

Australian and American physicists have built a working transistor from a single phosphorus atom embedded in a silicon crystal.

... they had laid the groundwork for a futuristic quantum computer that might one day function in a nanoscale world and would be orders of magnitude smaller and quicker than today’s silicon-based machines.

“Their approach is extremely powerful,” said Andreas Heinrich, a physicist at I.B.M. “This is at least a 10-year effort to make very tiny electrical wires and combine them with the placement of a phosphorus atom exactly where they want them.”

Demonstrations of single-atom transistors date from 2002 ...

Currently, the smallest dimension in state-of-the-art computers made by Intel is 22 nanometers — less than 100 atoms in diameter.

Despite these limits, the semiconductor industry has made great progress in finding ways to build circuits that are far smaller than the wavelength of visible light. And recently, equipment makers have begun making it possible to assemble layers in silicon chips a single atom at a time.
 
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