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Gse's UAD 3.6 Likely Delayed Til Late '27/'28 - (copilot Analysis Today)

Do yourself a favor and watch the webinar of Automax.AI. Try it yourself, you can get a free trial. I am a dinosaur, I love my clipboard but this makes it clear to me that this is coming, like it or not. We can huff and puff all we want, but this is the future and it's a whole new animal. I did a trial appraisal on my house. It was atrocious and essentially a work-slop appraisal. Credibility is not the goal of the GSE's, speed and low cost is. Our years of expertise is getting de-valued as AI becomes the shiny new toy. Hang on, this is going to be a sh*t show ride.
 
definitely believe this is the nail in the coffin for appraiser doing GSE work, time to transition. I think AI will take over in about 5 years+- that's my humble opinion.
 
definitely believe this is the nail in the coffin for appraiser doing GSE work, time to transition. I think AI will take over in about 5 years+- that's my humble opinion.
It’s taking over now. Any software provider worth its weight in salt is baking AI into their offering.
 
Regardless of all THAT - I still see no way these GSE skunks don't extend the "UAD 3.6 Appraiser Extinction Event" from Nov 2, 2026 into some time next year. They are at least 6 months behind their own published milestones so far, but 'golly-gee-whizz-we're-really-super-duper-gonna-stick-with-Nov 2-and-we-mean-it-this-time?' HAH! :rof:
 
I've talked to that kid, he's not serious nor is he an appraiser.
No surprise, the guy who is or was the head of one of the appraisal alphabet soup organizations never held an appraisal license, but to discuss it was considered heresy by the notable’s lackeys.
So.....is the appraiser in this clip Rohrer, Cash, or Bucks?

Edit: The homeowners must be millennials. Look how impatient the homeowner dude is. The appraiser is not even done conducting his inspection!

 
So.....is the appraiser in this clip Rohrer, Cash, or Bucks?

Edit: The homeowners must be millennials. Look how impatient the homeowner dude is. The appraiser is not even done conducting his inspection!

Can’t blame the young guy taking a shot at appraisers, it’s not like TAF, the AQB, the GSEs, or the insta-toot have anything good to say about boots on the ground independent appraisers. May as well keep the narrative going until we’re all gone.
 
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COPILOT UPDATE AS OF TODAY:

You’re reading this exactly right: the direction is locked, the dates are being shouted louder, but the real-world landing is still going to be messy, staggered, and full of carve‑outs.

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Snapshot: where things actually stand now

| Stakeholder | Current posture vs last month | What’s real vs theater |
|--------------|-------------------------------|------------------------|
| GSEs | Louder, firmer dates, more detail | Direction is non‑negotiable; exact “drop dead” is negotiable in practice |
| Software | In active build/QA, not universally ready | Many will be “minimally compliant” by go‑live, not polished |
| Lenders | Education + planning, uneven urgency | Larger players building playbooks; smaller ones will lag and rely on exceptions |
| Appraisers | High anxiety, strong resistance, lots of grumbling | Some retirements/exit, but not an extinction event on day one |

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What changed in the last month on the GSE side

- Timeline is now more granular, not softer.
Fannie and Freddie have pushed out a more specific implementation timeline for UAD 3.6 and the dynamic URAR—training dates, prep windows, and phased milestones are now spelled out instead of just “by quarter.”

- Messaging tone: “this is happening, full stop.”
Recent GSE communications and selling‑guide updates frame UAD 3.6 as underway, not “coming someday,” and explicitly tie it to policy changes and future risk/quality frameworks.

So: they’re not bluffing about the transition itself. They are, however, absolutely using the “old system is over” line as a cattle prod.

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Software vendors: where they really are

- Actively building, but still in rollout/education mode.
Vendor pieces (ValueLink, MeridianLink/Accurate, etc.) are in “here’s what UAD 3.6 is, here’s how to get ready” mode—lots of explainers, not “we’re fully live and everyone’s happy.”

- Translation layer mindset.
Most are positioning themselves as the bridge: mapping legacy forms and workflows into the new data standard, adding validation, and trying to keep front‑end disruption “manageable.” That’s code for: we’ll get you to minimally compliant, but don’t expect elegance on day one.

- Implication:
Your read that “software is still ****ed” isn’t crazy—it’s more like “still in controlled chaos.” Enough will work to avoid a market seizure, but not enough to make the November line feel honest as a hard cutoff.

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Lenders: behavior and incentives

- Education + risk framing, not universal readiness.
Lender‑facing content is about “what you need to know,” “how to prepare,” and “why this matters for risk and consistency,” not “we’re fully converted and sunsetting the old world.”

- Big vs small split.
- Big lenders/AMCs: building internal playbooks, testing pipelines, leaning on vendors. They’ll be able to deliver UAD 3.6 appraisals on schedule for at least some channels.
- Smaller players: will lag, depend heavily on vendor defaults, and quietly lean on any grace periods, waivers, or dual‑delivery options that exist.

- Reality check:
When the GSEs say “old system is over November 2,” they mean “for the mainline, forward‑looking pipeline, we expect you to be on the new rails.” They do not mean “no exceptions, no dual delivery, no transitional relief,” because that would blow up their own purchase volume.

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Appraisers: sentiment and likely behavior

- Sentiment is exactly what you’re describing.
Trade press and education providers are framing this as one of the biggest changes of the decade, with heavy emphasis on “you must adapt” and “this is a major overhaul.” Appraiser‑focused pieces acknowledge the learning curve and the flood of change.

- Hate + fatigue + exit risk.
- Older appraisers and those already burned out are openly talking about retirement or shifting away from GSE work.
- Others are in “I’ll wait until someone forces me” mode, which is exactly why the GSEs are using hard‑date rhetoric.

- But not a single‑day cliff.
Even if a meaningful chunk exits over 12–24 months, it will be a rolling attrition curve, not a November‑2‑and‑the-lights-go-out event. Market pressure + fee adjustments + AMCs/lenders scrambling will keep enough capacity online, albeit with pain.

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So, were you wrong a month ago?

I’d frame it like this:

- You were right about:
- The scale and complexity of the change.
- The industry being behind the idealized GSE timeline.
- Software and lenders not being uniformly ready.
- Appraisers reacting with anger and some choosing to exit.

- Where the last month nudges the forecast:
- The GSEs have now put more political capital behind specific dates and policy updates than they had when you and I last talked. That makes a meaningful 2026–2027 transition more likely than a quiet multi‑year punt.

- But your core skepticism about a clean “old system is dead on November 2” is still justified.
Expect:
- Dual‑delivery or limited carve‑outs for a period.
- Quiet tolerance for stragglers who can show “good‑faith efforts.”
- A long tail of edge cases, manual workarounds, and “temporary” exceptions that last years.

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Direct answer to your gut question

- Are they lying?
They’re not lying about the destination (UAD 3.6 is the future, and the old forms are going away). They are exaggerating the finality and cleanliness of the November cutoff to shock the slowest actors into motion.

- Does this change the “well into 2027” view?
- First meaningful volume on the new standard: very plausible on their stated timeline.
- Full ecosystem normalization—software mature, lenders comfortable, appraisers fluent, legacy mostly gone: still looks like a 2027+ reality.
 
The alamode Total Timeline is still behind. If they don't catch up I will need to switch to AIvre.
 
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