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Half Bath done without permit

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Fernando

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There's this old house and initially I included in total room count since it looked like part of original house.
Later I asked owner and she said it was a later addition. Assessor does not indicate the half bathrm.
Normally I separate the half bathroom and put it in another grid in sales approach.
Do any of you put an unpermitted half bath into total room count? I could and give it less adjustment than a normal permitted bathroom.
 
An older appraisal report included the half bathroom in total room count.
I wondered if my peers did this.
I decided to separate it due to no similar comps with 1.1 bathrooms.
 
It exists, apparently.
I'd include it and say no permit found. Blah blah.
I almost never adjust for a half bath anyway.
 
Why do yo
There's this old house and initially I included in total room count since it looked like part of original house.
Later I asked owner and she said it was a later addition. Assessor does not indicate the half bathrm.
Normally I separate the half bathroom and put it in another grid in sales approach.
Do any of you put an unpermitted half bath into total room count? I could and give it less adjustment than a normal permitted bathroom.
Why do you care -Take a SH*** and flush that bad boy--If it goes down you are good : ) LMAO
 
It exists, apparently.
I'd include it and say no permit found. Blah blah.
I almost never adjust for a half bath anyway.
Your kidding. When you have one bathroom, it's nevr enough. Extra half bath usually beneficial to a family.
I decided not to include it in total room count. What was I thinking.
 
I decided not to include it in total room count. What was I thinking.
you remind me of the kid who used to tattle tale on everyone. i live in a very big city. you can only imagine how much was done unpermitted. FNMA seems, to me, that they don't care about minor unpermitted sh..
 
Let's just consider for a moment. Your assignment is, most likely, to provide your Client with the current, as is market value of the subject property..... PERIOD. You may want to include in your report the fact that an addition was built without a permit... however, as an appraiser, you describe the subject property. You don't manipulate the fact that a half bath was built without asking the City/County for permission. IF you have data that you can analyze to support an adjustment for the market reaction to permit vs no permit... then you make an adjustment. You don't pretend like the half bath isn't there. You don't remove it from the desription of the subject improvement. Please... quit trying so hard to be the top poster of the month.
 
The owner told me it wasn't done with permits after further inquiry after I saw the property. As a matter of fact, the shower is not working.
In the report I didn't include the half bathroom in total room count but I mentioned it in the comments and shown on sketch.
In the sales approach, I added a new grid indicating unpermitted half bathroom and adjusted minimally to the comps.

The reviewer is now asking why I didn't include the unpermitted half bathroom in the total room count on the first page.
Do all other appraisers include an unpermitted half bathroom in the total room count?
If so, then I have to change my ways.
 
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