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Housing Bubble Bursting?

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What are your listing/sale supply inventories looking like? My areas that normally run 90 day supplies now have 8 to 9 months of listings. Places with 6 month supplies are out to 12 to 14 months. I'm beginning to see 450+ days on market showing up in the MLS on a regular basis. I haven't seen that since 1979-82.

There is going to be a lot of pressure on the market soon. Most of it downward.
 
I know of a small commercial bank that was almost put under as a result of an extended court battle involving a single $1,000,000 loan that had gone bad. A portfolio lender obviously has more exposure to bad loans than does a mortgage originator selling to the secondary market. Still, I think it's instructive to consider the margins these lenders and investors are working with against their potential losses.
 
Dee Dee said:
Bobby, I think that article is from last year, but I can't find a date on it.
I'll bet I can tell you where that realtor owns real estate, though. :)
Dee Dee even though they’ve been known to “puff” over their listings, surely you don’t think one would “puff” about their own market to enhance property they own personally would they? After all, they have a code to adhere to. :)
 
http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=44862&lang=fra&NewsRubrique=2
S Calif Housing Market Could Pull Homebuilders To New Lows
Tuesday August 22nd, 2006 / 15h23


By Janet Morrissey Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Watch out, California. Your housing market is about to get smacked.

The Southern California housing market is "in the early stages of a tsunami wave of cancellations and price cuts," predicts JMP analyst Alex Barron. Home builders with big exposure to this market could potentially take a hit that's even bigger than the beating many took in Florida.
Barron, who recently returned from a three-day tour through Southern California, said he sees similarities between market conditions in this area and those in the troubled Florida market.
"Demand has hit a wall" in Southern California as skyrocketing prices over of the past few years have made homes less affordable, said Barron. Builders have responded by offering higher incentives and steep price cuts, and by allowing buyers to put down shockingly small deposits - of less than 1% - on homes, he said.
"Deposits below 1% are a very ominous sign as it signals to us that demand is very weak and homes have now become very unaffordable," said Barron.
"If it's a $700,000 home and suddenly the builder has cut the price for similar homes to $650,000 or $600,000 - and you only put down a $5,000 deposit, why wouldn't you walk away from it?" he asked. "We would expect cancellations to rise dramatically in coming months as it will be relatively painless to walk away from such a small deposit."
He sees California's market conditions following in Florida's footsteps by only a few months. Florida has led the quickly deteriorating housing market for many of nation's homebuilders, where huge inventory gluts have forced builders to slash prices and offer extraordinary incentives in order to move sales.
However, a key difference between the two states is that Florida's woes were driven primarily by speculative investors and flippers who flooded the market and drove up prices over the past few years. Many of those same investors were forced to dump the homes they purchased back onto the market at fire-sale prices when the market softened.
By contrast, speculative investors were never as big in California. Instead, homebuilders themselves have been driving the inventory buildups in the Golden State, according to Barron.
"One of the more troublesome developments we saw in Southern California was that most builders were spec building entire communities at a time, with very few sales to support this level of construction," said Barron. "In one instance, we saw a community of about 100 homes where there were over 20 complete unsold homes, and yet the builder was already building the next 100 homes in the community next door with five sales."
That particular community was being built by Beazer Homes USA Inc. (BZH). Beazer, however, isn't alone, Barron said. He sees similar speculative building from other major publicly traded builders, including D.R. Horton Inc. (DHI), Lennar Corp. (LEN), Meritage Homes Corp. (MTH), Centex Corp. (CTX), California Coastal Communities Inc. (CALC), and Brookfield Homes Corp. (BHS).
"Many wrongly think that 'if you build it, they will come.' Well, they're not coming anymore," said Barron. As a result, he said that homebuilders that sell homes in California could be potentially hit even harder than they were in Florida.
"It appears to us in Florida, the one left holding the bag was the flipper or speculator," said Barron. "In Southern California, it appears to us the one left holding the bag is the homebuilder." He added that California is the state where the builders have most of their capital parked.
Michael Carliner, an economist with the National Association of Home Builders, disagrees that Southern California could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
He said California tends to have longer land and zoning approval processes than many other states, such as Florida. As a result, he said California tends to be "underbuilt" in general.
In 2005, the number of housing starts per 1,000 people in California stood at 5.34, which is below the national average of 7, and far short of Florida's 15.08 and Nevada's 17.58, he said. In the first six months of 2006, the number of starts per 1,000 people was 4.7 in California, 6.7 nationally and 13.8 in Florida. This means the pace of construction in Florida far outpaced California based on population growth.
Still, if speculative investors account for fewer buyers than in Florida, then they will also be responsible for fewer of the unsold homes in the market.
Data gathered from LoanPerformance, a mortgage information and analytics company, appear to back this up. Nationwide, the number of speculative buyers has surged in the past two years, with cities in Florida, Nevada, and Arizona dominating the top 30 spots.
LoanPerformance found that 16.8% of all mortgages issued for new home purchases in 1995 and 16.7% of those issued so far in 2006 were given to speculative investors and those purchasing vacation homes. This is up from 11.7% in 2003, 9.7% in 2002 and 7.9% in 2001.
Markets with the biggest percentage of speculative and vacation home buyers were in Myrtle Beach, S.C., and Naples and Fort Myers, Fla., where these investors represented 66.5%, 54.1% and 48%, respectively, of new mortgages in 2006. California markets only held down two of the top 30 spots, according to LoanPerformance.
Joe Snider, senior credit officer at Moody's Investors Service, said he still believes speculative investors were quite prominent in California and isn't convinced that public builders will take a tougher hit in California than they did in Florida.
However, Snider was surprised to hear that public builders were constructing entire communities on spec right now.
"The last time homebuilders did something like that was in the late '80s and early '90s, and some of them just didn't make it," said Snider. "There were seven homebuilders that went bankrupt in 1990, and the reason in every case was that they were long on land and they were financing it with short-term debt."
Snider said homebuilders learned tough lessons back then, and most no longer use short-term debt to finance their land purchases.
"If they've gotten back to a practice of building entire communities on spec - like they did in the late '80s and early '90s - that would definitely be a worrisome trend. But I've seen no evidence of that yet," he said.
Barron downgraded two builders that have large exposures to California - Standard Pacific Corp. (SPF) and Beazer Homes USA Inc. Standard Pacific gets about 49% of its revenue from California while Beazer currently gets about 20%.
Many of the major builders rely on California for a big percentage of their total revenues, including California Coastal Communities, 100%; Brookfield Homes Corp., 73%; William Lyon Homes Inc. (WLS), 72%; Lennar Corp., 32%; KB Home (KBH), 31%; D.R. Horton, 25%; Centex, 24%; Hovnanian Enterprises (HOV), 24%; M.D.C. Holdings Inc. (MDC), 22%; Meritage, 21%; Ryland Group Inc. (RYL), 21%; and Pulte Homes Inc.(PHM), 19%.
-By Janet Morrissey, Dow Jones Newswires; 201-938-2118


Tuesday August 22nd, 2006 / 15h23
 
Michael Carliner, an economist with the National Association of Home Builders, disagrees

If he wanted to keep his job he wouldn't agree would he?
 
Worm In The Big Apple

http://www.nypost.com/business/unsold_manhattan_apartments_at_10_yr__high_business_tom_bawden.htm

UNSOLD MANHATTAN APARTMENTS AT
10-YR. HIGH


ugust 22, 2006 -- Even with the average home price now at an astonishing $880,000, Manhattanites are starting to feel the pinch from rising interest rates and fears about the economy.
The Manhattan real estate market - with a median price now four-times the national average - has always been a law unto itself, but increasingly apartments are sitting on the market, unsold for months.
Although the average price per square foot of a Manhattan apartment hit a record $1,083 in the second quarter, the number of units on the market is at its highest in more than 10 years, according to Miller Samuel, the real estate research firm. The inventory in Manhattan rose from 3,922 units at the end of 2004 to 7,640 in the second quarter.
"We have a classic stand-off between buyers and sellers in New York," said Miller Samuel CEO Jonathan Miller. "Housing inventory is at the highest level since the late 1980s and demand has cooled off."
 
Musical Chairs.

The housing market now is like a game of musical chairs where the number of chairs exceeds the number of people in the game; it will take a while for the game to get interesting.
 
Got out of RE in May 2006 (& I sweated waiting for that last closing) Gotta wait till the $99 graduates get tired of Macaroni & Cheese. Or April 2007 after they get the "TAX DEDUCTIONS" on thier no income vacant rentals.

Actually got some here that said "The market gave NO warning, of this sudden dry up." Saddest part one that said that is (supposedly) an Appraiser.

Any Appraiser that did NOT make provisions in thier income plan that has been Appraising for more than 5 years. for a MAJOR (tempoary) slowdown in work load I do NOT have much sympathy for.

Seeeing RE Agents working thier "Second Job" Now that I do enjoy.
 
US existing home sales fall

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a1fJS2KdMZWU&refer=home

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8JM6FDG4.htm?sub=apn_home_up&chan=db

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/housing/2006-08-23-july-sales_x.htm

WASHINGTON — Existing home sales posted an unexpectedly sharp drop last month to the lowest level since January 2004 and home prices fell in all regions of the country but the South, the National Association of Realtors said Wednesday.
The downward pressure on prices probably will continue through the beginning of next year because the inventory of homes for sale has surged to the highest level in 13 years. There are now 3.86 million homes for sale, a 7.3-month supply.

The weakness in the market is being driven by higher interest rates, low affordability, and speculators who are dumping investment properties back on the market because they couldn't flip them for a profit.

ON DEADLINE : What's going on where you are?

"I was disappointed, it was a lot lower than I anticipated," said David Lereah, NAR's chief economist. "What is clear to me is sellers are more stubborn than I expected them to be. We definitely need a correction in prices in order for buyers to come back into the market."

He said he expects home prices to come down 5% nationally, more in some markets, less in others. And a few cities in Florida and California, where home prices soared to nose-bleed heights, could have "hard landings," he said.

Total existing home sales fell 4.1% from June to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 6.33 million — a much steeper decline than economists expected.

The median single-family home price, meaning half cost more and half cost less, was $231,200, up 1.5% from July last year, but the median condo price fell for the second month in a row and is now $225,600, down 1%.

What is most worrying, however, is how the real estate markets are suffering in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Massachusetts, and some parts of Pennsylvania and New York. Job losses in those area are driving home sales down and foreclosures up.

"That's a whole different situation for real estate, that's a contraction," Lereah said. "That worries me more than anything else. It highlights the need for the (Federal Reserve) to stay the course and not raise rates. The economy is a little softer than everybody thought."

In the Northeast, sales were off 5.4%, and the median price dipped 2.1% to $276,000. Home sales in the Midwest slid 5.9%, and the median home cost $178,000, off 0.6%. And in the West, sales were lower by 6.4%, and prices slipped 0.3% to $348,000.

While home sales fell 1.2% in the South, the median price rose 3.2% to $192,000.

The July report was weaker than analysts expected. Economists were forecasting the pace of sales to fall to 6.55 million.

Wednesday's disappointing results for existing home sales comes a day after Toll Bros., one of the nation's largest builders of new homes said orders have dropped 48% in its most recent quarter.

"The continuing malaise in the housing market, we believe, is the result of an oversupply of inventory and a decline in confidence," said CEO Robert I. Toll. "The speculative buyers of 2004 and 2005 are now sellers, builders that built speculative homes are trying to move them by offering large incentives and discounts, and some anxious buyers are canceling contracts for homes already being built."

"The overhang in supply and the aggressive discounting of many builders is undermining consumer confidence and keeping buyers on the sidelines as they continue to worry about the direction of home prices," Toll said.

And low consumer confidence equals low builder confidence. Last week, the National Association of Home Builders said that confidence among builders hit a 15-year low.

For five years, home sales had hit record highs as low mortgage rates lured buyers. But the housing sector has lost steam this year with mortgage rates rising. Would-be buyers also have grown cautious amid high energy prices and a slowing economy.

The Federal Reserve earlier this month decided to halt a rate-raising campaign that had pushed interest rates steadily higher.

The Fed's goal is to raise rates sufficiently to thwart inflation but not enough to hurt the economy.

One of the things that Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke and his colleagues are watching closely is the housing slowdown. If home prices and sales were to crash, that could spell big trouble for the economy. Thus far, Bernanke has said the market's slowdown has been fairly orderly.

The housing sector's transition from a red-hot market to a cool one has important implications for the economy. Consumers who watched their homes rise rapidly in value over the last several years felt wealthy and more inclined to spend.

They also borrowed against their homes to support their spending.

But with home values not going up as much now as they had in the past several years, consumers have tightened their belts. That has contributed to a slowing in economic activity.
 
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