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Housing Bubble Bursting?

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I had an underwriter ask how a house sold at a preconstruction price of $209,000 two years ago could now be worth $335,000. All three comps (sales prices almost identical to subject's appraised price) were same age, style and within a mile (a couple in the same subdivision). And if so, "why did appraiser mark housing trends as 'stable?'"

Uh, well.........seller signed with builder in Dec., 2002 at early pre-construction prices (this was mentioned in 3 year sales history). Then, in 2005, Orlando experienced a 44.8% increase in housing prices. Then, things slowed down and stabilized. The last two statements have been all over the news for months/years. I buried her with cnnMoney.com, WSJ, Orlando Sentinel, etc. since she's obviously been buried with work and hasn't had time to catch up on business news. :new_Eyecrazy:
 
http://www.safehaven.com/article-5761.htm

August 25, 2006

Housing Weighs on the Economy
by Chad Hudson


There was little surprise that the housing market remained weak in July. Existing homes sales fell 4% from June to an annual rate of 6.33 million in July. This was 12.5% lower than last year. This was the slowest rate of home sales since January 2004. The median price gained 0.9% from last year, the South was the only region to experience a year-over-year gain. The West had its second consecutive month of lower year-over-year prices. Sales in the West were 18% lower than last July. This was the seventh month of double-digit yearly decline for the West. Not only are fewer homes selling, but more are coming on the market. In July, the number of homes for sales jumped 118,000 to 3.856 million. Combined with slower sales, the number of months supply jumped to 7.3. This is two months longer than in January.

On Tuesday, Toll Brothers reported third quarter earnings of $1.07. This was slightly ahead of analysts estimates, but was 16% lower than a year ago. Similar to other homebuilders, Toll Brothers wrote off $23 million related to land. Excluding this charge earnings were down 9%. The homebuilder also revised its guidance for the full year to $4.41 to $4.63 from previous guidance of $4.69 to $5.16. Wall Street had already reduced its estimates to $4.40. The company didn't provide earnings guidance for 2007, but said that revenue would fall due to a 10-19% drop in deliveries and a 7% drop in the average selling price. Part of the drop in average selling price will be due to a shift to smaller homes. In response to a question whether or not the company felt the market was starting to bottom, it said, "but I don't see a turnaround in any of the markets specifically."

Last week, Home Depot reported that the slowing housing market has adversely affected its outlook. On Monday, Lowe's echoed similar comments. Lowe's reported an 11% gain in second quarter earnings, which was inline with analysts' estimates. Same stores sales increased 3.3%, driven by a 4% gain in the average ticket. It also mentioned that promotional activity increased during the quarter. It was interesting that Lowe's noted that even as it saw evidence that customers cutback discretionary spending, it still had strong sales of high end items in some product lines. Similar to Home Depot last week, the home improvement retailer lowered its guidance for the second half of the year. Same store sales are expected to be flat to up 2% during the third quarter as "near-term pressures on the U.S. consumer have led to a more cautious outlook for the balance of the year."

Also playing a role in the housing market is a shift in psychology Just a year ago the media was hyping the housing boom highlighting investors that had switched from investing in the stock market to investing in residential housing. Today, there are an abundance of stories highlighting the bursting bubble. This week, the Wall Street Journal ran two such stories. The first highlighted the problems of "stated income" loans. The article mentioned a study done for the Mortgage Bankers Association by the Mortgage Asset Research Institute found that 60% of a sampling of 100 loans from one lender had income overstated by more than 50%. On Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal highlighted one homeowner that placed her house on the market for its 2005 appraised values of $1.1 million. Long story short, she ended up selling it for $530,000. Over the weekend, Barron's noted that only 1% of WaMu's option ARMS were in negative amortization at the end of 2003. In 2004, it moved up to 21% and has jumped to 47% at the end of last year.

While housing has been decisively weak, the data has been mixed for the rest of the economy. The Philadelphia Fed index was much higher than expected for August. The index measuring business activity in the Philadelphian area rose 12.5 points to 18.5. This was the highest level since April 2005. Most of the strength came from higher orders (+5.6 to 15.7) along with higher shipments (+12.1 to 22.3). This was the first report that offered a look at how the economy is doing in August. The only component to fall was for the number of employees. However, while number of employees slipped the average work week jumped to the highest level since April 2005. The outlook for the next six months is not as rosy. The expectations index dropped 8 points to 7.4. The largest drop was in prices received. New orders and shipments actually rose, as did the number of employees.

While the Philadelphia survey rose this month, the Richmond Fed fell in August after rising last month. The one interesting part of the Richmond survey was the response to prices paid and prices received. Manufactures said that prices paid increased 1.88%, which was the smallest increase since August 2005. However, prices received jumped to 2.61%, which was the second highest increase since the survey started in late 1993. The largest increase was in November last year after commodity prices jumped following the hurricanes. This was similar to the recent PPI and CPI data that showed consumer prices increased more than producer prices in July.

The debate among investors is focused on if the Fed has just paused or is done rising rates. Most investors think that economic growth is slowing and lower aggregate demand will quell inflation pressure. In a speech yesterday, Michael Moskow, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, noted: "The risk of inflation remaining too high is greater than the risk of growth being too low." He also said that "We need to balance the benefits of gaining new information against the costs of waiting too long. If inflation stays stubbornly high while we wait to see the effects of earlier policy actions, inflation expectations could increase - and that would be very costly." He also addressed the beleaguered housing market, "While we factor a housing slowdown into our outlook, there is some evidence - such as higher rates of cancellation in home-building contracts - that the slowdown could be more extensive."
 
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California Sees Housing Boom Become Slump

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...BF93AA1575BC0A966958260&sec=&pagewanted=print
August 29, 1990
California Sees Housing Boom Become Slump
By RICHARD W. STEVENSON, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
LEAD: On front lawns in many cities along the California coast, the for-sale sign has become almost as common as the palm tree, and to some sellers seemingly as permanent. After several years of breathtaking price increases and demand so strong that houses were snapped up within hours of being listed, California's giant real estate market has slowed drastically.

On front lawns in many cities along the California coast, the for-sale sign has become almost as common as the palm tree, and to some sellers seemingly as permanent. After several years of breathtaking price increases and demand so strong that houses were snapped up within hours of being listed, California's giant real estate market has slowed drastically.

Just as in the Northeast in recent years, California sellers accustomed to huge annual increases in housing prices have been shocked by how low the offers have come in. Some are dropping their prices to meet the highest bid, and housing prices are now falling in many areas. But in other cases they are either taking their houses off the market or leaving them on and refusing to budge much on the price.

Volume of Sales Down

As a result, the pace of housing sales in California has been dropping even more quickly than the price. Figures released Monday by the California Association of Realtors indicated that the rate of houses sold fell in July to its lowest level since December 1985. The seasonally adjusted annualized rate of sales last month for existing single-family houses was 419,943, down 15 percent from July 1989. Construction of new houses is also off sharply.

And while prices in some inland cities like Sacramento continue to rise, prices are dropping in the population centers along the Pacific Coast. The median price of a single-family house sold in Monterey was down 9.3 percent from July 1989, and in Los Angeles it was down 4.5 percent. Prices in Santa Barbara dropped 2.9 percent from a year earlier. In the San Francisco Bay area, the drop was 1.8 percent.

Statewide, the median house price in July, at $194,099, was down 3.7 percent from a year earlier, when the statewide figure peaked at $201,653.

After the heady atmosphere that made this one of the nation's most overheated housing markets for the past several years, the new reality has come as a shock. Starting in 1986, prices rose as much as 30 percent annually in some areas, with the sharpest increases in 1987 and 1988.

Even with such increases, buyers found themselves in bidding wars that often pushed the selling price above the original asking price. Their willingness to pay reflected a belief that the house would be worth even more within a few months.

The ''buy at any price'' mentality seemed by late last year to have finally outrun the ability or willingness of many people to buy a house, and has disappeared this year. With the sales rate down and so many houses on the market, the pressure to lower prices is even greater, and many analysts expect prices to fall further, particularly if the national economy, now burdened by the Middle East crisis, descends into a recession.

But while the rapid deceleration of the housing market on the California coast resembles that of the Northeast, there are a number of important differences. Since prices in the Northeast have been falling longer and farther than here, more sellers have taken losses. And the Northeast's economy is weaker than California's.

In the view of many real estate agents here, the slump is nothing more than a temporary cooling. Californians continue to recite a litany of factors they think will keep the housing market from going into a steep dive, including the state's diversified economy, widespread restrictions on building that have limited the supply of housing and its strong population growth. Early census figures show that the state's population has topped 29 million, for an explosive 23.7 percent rise in a decade.

No Strength Left

Despite such optimism, the housing market in California is so enervated that the Kaufman & Broad Home Corporation, the state's largest house builder, recently started offering to pay closing costs for new-house buyers, an incentive worth about $10,000. The Marina City Club, a condominium complex in Marina Del Rey, has cut prices up to 22 percent. A developer in Lancaster, in the Mojave Desert north of Los Angeles, recently cut prices on some houses to less than $200,000, from $245,000, infuriating owners of identical neighboring houses who paid the developer full price just a few months ago.

More than a year ago, Charles M. Harker put a three-bedroom, two-bath house in the Los Angeles suburb of La Canada on the market for $497,500. The house, which he bought and remodeled as an investment, remains unsold, with the price slashed to $445,000 and Mr. Harker and a partner close to the point where their chance for a profit would evaporate.

''The market just came unglued,'' said Mr. Harker, an accountant. ''Many of us looked at it as though the strong market would continue. We didn't see the fall coming quite so fast.''

In November, Ann Pettijohn, a broker in Orange County, listed a three-bedroom house in the planned community of Irvine. The owner was being transferred, and had turned down an offer to sell the house to his company for $325,000, convinced that he could get a higher price.

'No One Buying Anymore'

The house remained on the market for six months at $339,000 before the owner finally gave up and accepted the company's offer. The company has had the house on the market through another broker for $319,900 and just accepted an offer that Ms. Pettijohn said was probably in the $315,000 range.

''That's a common scenario,'' Ms. Pettijohn said. ''The house eventually did sell, but the market in 1989 was $339,000 and in 1990 it's $315,000 to $319,000. It's like someone blew a whistle that only dogs and buyers could hear, and suddenly there's no one buying anymore.''

Few sellers are actually losing money. Except for those who bought at the peak last year and must sell now, most homeowners are still far ahead on paper after the double-digit price increases of previous years. As a result, banks and savings and loan associations in California report no upswing in foreclosures on residences, and most analysts say the state's financial institutions will weather the slump without any significant damage.

The Economy Is Rattled

Still, the downturn is extremely unsettling in California, where analysts already see signs of vulnerability in an economy that has enjoyed robust growth longer than almost every other region of the country. The economy is being rattled by huge layoffs in the aerospace and military contracting industries. Commercial real estate developers and brokers are being battered by a glut of new office space. Permits for construction of residential housing declined to an annual rate of about 160,000 in June from an average of 238,000 last year, prompting the beginning of a decline in construction jobs.

And some analysts say California's economy and its housing market are in for tougher times.

''With the economy at risk in the future, we couldn't have hit bottom yet in the housing market,'' said David Hensley, an economist with the business forecasting project at the University of California at Los Angeles. ''I'd expect further erosion in sales and probably prices too.''

'Cyclical Downturn'

Richard A. Snyder, a broker in San Diego who is chairman of the California Association of Realtors' long-term planning committee, said: ''We are in an adjustment period. My personal view is that we are going into a cyclical downturn that could last one-and-a-half to two years.''

But, Mr. Snyder added, ''We will in fact weather the storm and we won't see the price decreases you have seen in the Northeast.''

There are a few bright spots in the state. Sacramento and other inland cities, where prices are far lower than along the coast, continue to see increases in sales volume and price. In a state where only 18 percent of households can afford the median-priced house, according to the Realtors association, the lowest-priced houses are selling briskly.

But most of the state is facing a wrenching readjustment. Jim and Marilou Brown put their house near Santa Barbara up for sale in June 1989, asking $289,000, roughly the same price that a similar house down the street had sold for a few months earlier. Mr. Brown, a newspaper editor, moved immediately to Florida with the couple's son to start a job there, while Mrs. Brown stayed behind for what they thought would be several months.

An 11-Month Ordeal

But the house did not sell until May, 11 months later, and only after the Browns dropped their price by nearly 10 percent, to $263,000. In the end, after accounting for capital gains taxes and $25,000 in improvements they made, Mr. Brown said they barely came out ahead despite having purchased the three-bedroom house at the beginning of the boom in 1986 for $187,000.

''It was a bust as far as our expectations were concerned,'' Mr. Brown said. ''We didn't lose, but we certainly didn't come out with diamonds and rubies and gold fillings. It was kind of a shock because when I left California, the boom was still going on.''

Real estate agents by and large say they remain optimistic. Ms. Pettijohn, the broker from Orange County, said she got a call the other day from an investor who had stopped buying properties last fall, asking her to suggest some good values.

''When your investor buyers start calling,'' she said, ''you begin to think they're sniffing the bottom of the market.''
 
August 29, 1990
California Sees Housing Boom Become Slump
Moh, this is really quite old news, don't you think?

Are you posting this because you think we are now in a down cycle similar to 1990?
 
Randolph Kinney said:
Moh, this is really quite old news, don't you think?

Are you posting this because you think we are now in a down cycle similar to 1990?
Yes, it is a reminder that indicates we went thru this situation 16 years ago just exactly at the same month and never learned a lesson. I guess this time is even worse.
 
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Local Foreclosure Rates Skyrocketing

http://www.kcra.com/news/9734571/detail.html?subid=22100408&qs=1;bp=t


Sacramento County Foreclosures Up 118 Percent


POSTED: 5:12 pm PDT August 24, 2006
UPDATED: 6:34 pm PDT August 24, 2006

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Local foreclosure rates are skyrocketing as the real estate market continues to cool, and hundreds of Northern California families are suddenly seeing their homes going on the auction block.


At the Sacramento County Courthouse, it used to be that foreclosure auctions happened once a week. Now, several times a day homeowners are seeing their American dream turn into a nightmare.


In Sacramento County during the second quarter of this year, the number of homes going into foreclosure stood at 1,866. That compares to 857 forclosures for the same time last year -- an increase of 118 percent.

"People cash out all the equity in their homes and perhaps they don't change their spending habits. And they consolidate all their bills and credit cards into their homes," foreclosure auctioneer Kelly Palmer said.


Elsewhere, foreclosures are up 74 percent in Stanislaus County, 87 percent in San Joaquin County and 116 percent in Placer County.

Alexis McGee of the investor services agency Foreclosures.com said many homeowners who find themselves falling behind on their mortgage payments should not try to refinance, but rather simply try to sell.


"There's a total time line from the beginning of the notice of default to the actual day that the house goes back to the bank of about four months. That four months gets eaten up rather quickly if you spend all that time shopping for a loan," McGee said.


Mortgage experts said former owners are often in denial until someone shows up ordering them to move.

So, does this mean the housing bubble has burst?


McGee still describes it as a leaking bubble but said her description will change if a year from now foreclosure rates have doubled again.
 
Housing On Borrowed Time?

Randolph Kinney said:
http://www.kcra.com/news/9734571/detail.html?subid=22100408&qs=1;bp=t


Sacramento County Foreclosures Up 118 Percent


POSTED: 5:12 pm PDT August 24, 2006
UPDATED: 6:34 pm PDT August 24, 2006

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Local foreclosure rates are skyrocketing as the real estate market continues to cool, and hundreds of Northern California families are suddenly seeing their homes going on the auction block.


At the Sacramento County Courthouse, it used to be that foreclosure auctions happened once a week. Now, several times a day homeowners are seeing their American dream turn into a nightmare.


In Sacramento County during the second quarter of this year, the number of homes going into foreclosure stood at 1,866. That compares to 857 forclosures for the same time last year -- an increase of 118 percent.

"People cash out all the equity in their homes and perhaps they don't change their spending habits. And they consolidate all their bills and credit cards into their homes," foreclosure auctioneer Kelly Palmer said.


Elsewhere, foreclosures are up 74 percent in Stanislaus County, 87 percent in San Joaquin County and 116 percent in Placer County.

Alexis McGee of the investor services agency Foreclosures.com said many homeowners who find themselves falling behind on their mortgage payments should not try to refinance, but rather simply try to sell.


"There's a total time line from the beginning of the notice of default to the actual day that the house goes back to the bank of about four months. That four months gets eaten up rather quickly if you spend all that time shopping for a loan," McGee said.


Mortgage experts said former owners are often in denial until someone shows up ordering them to move.

So, does this mean the housing bubble has burst?


McGee still describes it as a leaking bubble but said her description will change if a year from now foreclosure rates have doubled again.
What else did you expect to see? look at these numbers:
http://www.speciousargument.com/blog/archives/2006/08/housing_on_borrowed_time.php
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Housing On Borrowed Time?
Lon Witter, founding partner at Witter & Westlake Investments in Louisville, KY, wrote an excellent Barron's article The No-Money-Down Disaster (subscription required).

The cost and risk of adjustable-rate financing can be devastating. Consider a typical $250,000 three-year adjustable-rate mortgage with a 2% rate-hike cap. If the monthly payment now is $1,123, after the first adjustment, the monthly payment is $1,419. After the second adjustment, the monthly payment is $1,748, a $625-per-month increase. That's $7,500 more per year just to maintain the same mortgage. If you think high gas prices are biting the consumer, consider the cost of mortgage adjustments.

Some more numbers:

32.6% of new mortgages and home-equity loans in 2005 were interest only, up from 0.6% in 2000
43% of first-time home buyers in 2005 put no money down
15.2% of 2005 buyers owe at least 10% more than their home is worth
10% of all home owners with mortgages have no equity in their homes
$2.7 trillion dollars in loans will adjust to higher rates in 2006 and 2007.
These numbers sound preposterous, but the reasoning behind them is worse. Lenders have encouraged people to use the appreciation in value of their houses as collateral for an unaffordable loan, an idea similar to the junk bonds being pushed in the late 1980s. The concept was to use the company you were taking over as collateral for the loan you needed to take over the company in the first place. The implosion of that idea caused the 1989 mini-crash.

While the source of the statistics was not provided in the article, if we assume the numbers are correct, then those statistics should certainly give us pause. Doug Kass has been beating the drum on housing for quite some time as well. Like both Witter and Kass, I am cautious of the markets because of negative effects that housing might have
 
Wonder Why UW Wants Foreclosure Rate?

I have been seeing more short sales hit the market here. With news articles also confirming that defaults are rising (double over the last 6 months), it is no wonder that underwriters are asking for the foreclosure rate to be incorporated as part of the appraisal. They want appraisers to be the reason for denying the loan.

I am seeing a decline in price from the peak in the last 6 to 12 months on condos. At some point, I will have to check the box, "declining". I can see it now ... :fiddle:
 
As a recovering "stable" check boxer, may I turn to all as a support group. This is going to get more nastier, isn't it?
 
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