• Welcome to AppraisersForum.com, the premier online  community for the discussion of real estate appraisal. Register a free account to be able to post and unlock additional forums and features.

Housing Bubble Bursting?

Status
Not open for further replies.
It is happening - lenders paying the price

Indymac says it may swing to a loss in third quarter

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Indymac Bancorp Inc. said it may swing to a loss this quarter as the second-largest U.S. independent home lender expects to sell fewer loans into a balky secondary market and cut back on making riskier loans.

In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Friday, the Pasadena, Calif., lender said it may break even or post a loss of as much as $36.8 million, or 50 cents a share. Indymac made $86 million, or $1.19 cents a share, in the third quarter of last year. The forecast reflects how the turmoil in the credit market has made lending unprofitable for now and forced some big lenders like Indymac to change their business models radically.
Will this lender survive the coming wave of foreclosures? Can this lender survive with a business of conforming loans only?
 
Beazer gets purported default notice on notes; Hovnanian posts another loss

Hovnanian, Beazer news caps tough week for home builders

BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Residential builder stocks, which were hit earlier this week by a plunge in pending home sales, were under pressure again Friday on quarterly losses and renewed bankruptcy fears.

Beazer Homes USA Inc. said it has received purported default notices from U.S. Bank National Association, the trustee under the indentures governing several outstanding senior notes.

Atlanta-based Beazer in a press release said the notices allege the company is in default because it has not yet filed its quarterly financial report with regulators for the period ended June 30. The notices allege the defaults will become events of default if not remedied within 60 days, Beazer said.

Beazer's latest disclosure only fueled concerns that some home builders may succumb to pressure from lenders and be forced to file for bankruptcy.

Hovnanian Enterprises Inc. said it swung to a fiscal third-quarter loss of $80.5 million, or $1.27 a share. The Red Bank, N.J.-based company said the results included $108.6 million of pretax charges related to land impairments and write-offs of predevelopment costs and land deposits.

Net contracts during the quarter slipped 24% from a year earlier, as total revenue fell 27%.

"Credit tightening in the mortgage market has reduced the number of qualified home buyers, existing home inventory levels remain persistently high in many of our markets and buyer psychology has been negatively impacted by a steady stream of news related to falling housing prices, foreclosure rates and mortgage availability," said Chief Executive Ara Hovnanian in the earnings release.
Bankruptcies are coming.
 
Hovnanian Enterprises Inc. said it swung to a fiscal third-quarter loss of $80.5 million, or $1.27 a share.
(my bold)

Should not that be a negative number?
 
(my bold)

Should not that be a negative number?
Its stock price is $11 per share. Its capital is $685 Billion. It has negative earning. Its share has declined 59% this year. Decline of $1.5 per share brings the share price to $9.5.
 
Its stock price is $11 per share. Its capital is $685 Billion. It has negative earning. Its share has declined 59% this year. Decline of $1.5 per share brings the share price to $9.5.

Moh-

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the article doesn't say the stock price dropped $1.27/share. The article seems to say that the $80.5 loss is a $1.27 hit to earnings per share. If I am correct, should not the $1.27 loss be expressed as a negative number? Negative earnings = negative earnings per share, no?
 
Now here is a thread that has changed MANY Appraisers thinking since it's origination.
 
Losing money? Cut your workforce - you don't need them

IndyMac Will Cut 10 Percent of Workforce, May Post Loss as U.S. Sales Slow

Sept. 7 (Bloomberg) -- IndyMac Bancorp Inc., the second- biggest U.S. mortgage company, plans to cut 10 percent of its workforce and may report a loss for the first time in at least eight years as housing sales falter and defaults on home loans climb.

IndyMac expects to eliminate about 1,000 jobs over the next ``several months,'' the Pasadena, California-based company said today in a statement. IndyMac also said it may report a third- quarter loss of as much as $36.8 million, or 50 cents a share.
IndyMac may survive as a lender in some form in the long run however, it won't be the company it was. For sure, many employees will not survive and the layoffs will continue.
 
Credit tightening - no new clients for warehouse lending

Citigroup Unit Won't Take New Mortgage Bank Clients, People Familiar Say

Citigroup Inc., the largest U.S. bank, stopped accepting new clients in a unit that offers credit lines to mortgage banks, according to two people familiar with the situation.

Citigroup's decision may make it harder for some home lenders to survive. More than 100 have sought buyers or halted operations since the start of 2006 as U.S. foreclosures climbed to a record in the second quarter. Loss of warehouse credit may have led to all of this year's 15 bankruptcy filings, said Ronald Greenspan, senior managing director for FTI Consulting Inc., a Baltimore-based firm that advises creditors.
That's not good news for the likes of a IndyMac.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Find a Real Estate Appraiser - Enter Zip Code

Copyright © 2000-, AppraisersForum.com, All Rights Reserved
AppraisersForum.com is proudly hosted by the folks at
AppraiserSites.com
Back
Top