I am not doing the 3.6 FORM deal

[Zoe]

IDK what your eyesight condition is, however, a friend of mine got cataract surgery and restored her vision- the operation is outpatient and fairly simple, I believe Medicaid might cover it if necessary.

I have had it on both eyes. Mine were bad. I had a really good doctor in Memphis do it. My Mom had it and didn't have as good of a doctor. It didn't go as well for her. It helped her but I'm 20/20 now. I had it a few years ago. The first eye I wanted near sighted and about 2 years later I had to do the other eye. I wanted far sighted on it. I am near sighted in one eye and far sighted in the other. Doctor said that drives the brain crazy on some people but you have been that way for 2 years after 1st cataract surgery so you will be fine. It don't bother me.

 

[Essexfenwick]

It seems you either missed or are ignoring Caschcatz's post, where he said AI is not anywhere close to being able to do an appraisal.
In addition, USPAP defines an appraisal as a ( human) opinion of value, so AI alone can not perform an appraisal.

AI can do segmented tasks of an appraisal with the right prompts or programming. The right programming would prompt AI within the software or online form to retrieve data, or find out X, or after the appraiser imports their selected data, AI is prompted to do a market conditions adjustment from the data. That is how I picture it being used in the near future. How near, IDK- depends on which company wants to devote the resources to making AI integrated in a functional way for evaluations or for appraisal assistance.

Yes.

The complexity of appraising exceeds almost every other profession like computer science, engineering, accounting or radiology

Appraising is the one profession AI can't figure out

 

[Bobby Bucks]

Agree. I might not be able to tolerate it-
I will try to do one or two and will know right away - no point in my wasting time stressing in advance - will watch some videos online from ALAMODE and make a template and either it will be doable ( for me ) or not.

That's basically my plan. I will take a CE course on the form since I can get credit, , but have no intention of wasting a great deal of time watching videos of "what might be on the form". If I see every assignment will be a time consuming nightmare, I'm not going to play their game.

 

[RCA]

Good luck with that, many appraisers are bent out of shape of the prospect of having to use new (very basic) apps that actually extract all the hard computer science parts. Figuring out how to get a basic coding environment set up is not tenable but for the top 10% of tinkerers.

Also, I think a lot of people are conflating the new tech as well as new UAD report format with the data stealing/harvesting, which are different things - and taking it out on the tech. And yeah, the data stealing nonsense is BS; but that's an industry/cultural/legal issue, not a technical one.

I know that I definitely would not trust data from the vast majority of appraisal reports. I can do much better myself.

Yes, max 10% of residential. Commercial appraisers are more talented, and I might increase my percentage to 30-40% on them. The MAIs do have to get through the MAI comprehensive exam, so they are somewhat more intelligent - at least when they were younger. Some individuals age rapidly, become calcified in the brain, and by the time they reach 50-60, they may no longer be motivated to learn anything new. I believe this will all change over the next decade.

The time will come when adjustments will not be allowed, except perhaps in exceptional cases (such as a lack of data); adjustments will have to be calculated from value contributions - AND APPRAISAL WILL BECOME PART OF ACCOUNTING STANDARDS.

 

[Fernando]

I know that I definitely would not trust data from the vast majority of appraisal reports. I can do much better myself.

Many appraisal reports not up to my standard but when I see a good one, I regain my faith that there are still good appraisers out there.

Yes, max 10% of residential. Commercial appraisers are more talented, and I might increase my percentage to 30-40% on them.

Talented in BS that is. Since there are few similar comparables (location wise), I can see the flaws in their reasoning but their canned comments, stacks of pages, and data make their reports look "legitimate".

The MAIs do have to get through the MAI comprehensive exam, so they are somewhat more intelligent - at least when they were younger. Some individuals age rapidly, become calcified in the brain, and by the time they reach 50-60, they may no longer be motivated to learn anything new. I believe this will all change over the next decade.

MAI certification helps legitimize some of their "bad" appraisals. One time I had eminent domain on one section of my property. It is a difficult appraisal to do and I disagreed with the comps on the report. As a business decision, I let it go and accepted the government payment.

The time will come when adjustments will not be allowed, except perhaps in exceptional cases (such as a lack of data); adjustments will have to be calculated from value contributions - AND APPRAISAL WILL BECOME PART OF ACCOUNTING STANDARDS.

Adjustments will be around. AI still can't replace human appraisers at this time.

 

[Mark K]

Yes.

The complexity of appraising exceeds almost every other profession like computer science, engineering, accounting or radiology

Appraising is the one profession AI can't figure out

Appraising is like 2nd grade math compared to most engineering fields.

AI can't figure it out....yet. But soon, sooner than you think.

 

[gregb]

Appraising is like 2nd grade math

And there is a failure rate of 50%~ who take the CG exam...

 

[Essexfenwick]

Appraising is like 2nd grade math compared to most engineering fields.

AI can't figure it out....yet. But soon, sooner than you think.

I was being sarcastic.

 

[Fernando]

Appraising is like 2nd grade math compared to most engineering fields.

AI can't figure it out....yet. But soon, sooner than you think.

Students at California University without 8th grade math skills skyrockets

A sharp rise in students without middle school-level math skills is raising alarms among educators and policymakers.

www.newsweek.com

Students at California University Without 8th Grade Math Skills Skyrockets​

A sharp rise in students entering the University of California system without middle school-level math skills is raising alarms among educators.

A new internal report from the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) reveals that the percentage of incoming students scoring below Algebra 1 on placement exams—a math course typically completed by the end of eighth grade—has tripled over the past five years.

In 2020, just 6 percent of first-year students at UCSD placed below Algebra 1. By 2025, that number had surged to 18 percent, according to the UCSD Senate Admissions Working Group (SAWG) report.

The findings reflect a growing disconnect between high school transcripts and actual college readiness. The SAWG report links the increase to pandemic-era learning disruptions, long-standing inequities in California’s K–12 system, and the elimination of standardized testing requirements in UC admissions.

The report acknowledges the tension between access and readiness.

“We cannot simply admit only from better-resourced schools,” the report says. “This would replicate privilege and fail to support our mission as an institution that promotes social mobility.”

 

[Sandra Koutsopoulos]

If deficient, could they offer remedial math courses to bring students up to speed? Question is, whether the students are sufficiently motivated to take/pass the remedial math class. And if not, are they really university material? or would a different direction be more productive?