I am not doing the 3.6 FORM deal

[shrubberyvaluation]

So what you and similar commentators are implying is that you have never seen similar reports from anyone lacking a designation and that you believe none exist. I don't think designations could help.

Oh I have, I just don't see the designation being helpful other than appearances. I would prefer to just learn and grow.

 

[TerryRohrer]

Oh I have, I just don't see the designation being helpful other than appearances. I would prefer to just learn and grow.

The import of what they are criticizing is less than whatever defect leads some to criticize that which they claim doesn't matter. How does anyone else's designation detract from those without it?

 

[DWiley]

Oh I have, I just don't see the designation being helpful other than appearances. I would prefer to just learn and grow.

Nothing helped me learn and grow as an appraiser more than going through the designation process.

That said, having an SRA designation means that the appraiser has previously demonstrated all the competencies required of a residential appraiser. It does not guarantee competent performance on subsequent assignments. Some know (or formerly knew) how to execute properly but opt not to do so. That is not unique to appraising. That is why every entity that issues licenses and/or designations has a process for revocation.

 

[Fernando]

I remember when so many appraisers said they were never going to use the 1004 UAD...

When I used the GP form instead of the UAD form, it was refreshing and wonderful not having to deal with UAD inputting those 0s and such.
UAD is a waste of our time in working on appraisals (same as ANSI). Reminiscing the good old days with less requirements in our reports.
The new UAD form will be even worse.

 

[Alsie35]

You know this thread has gone down the proverbial "Rabbit Hole" when it takes Fernando to get it back on track.

 

[Alsie35]

I remember when so many appraisers said they were never going to use the 1004 UAD...

Not relevant to this change, Tim.

Different time. Different average Appraiser age-profile. Different number of total appraisers. Different level of complexity involved in the change (by orders of magnitude).

So you have to keep working into the "UAD 3.6 Abomination" era Tim? Then good luck to you - and I mean that most sincerely. But I'm out the day the "1004 Regime" is retired. And I won't be alone. Why? Let me "quantify" the reasons:

1. Additional eye strain alone will be the main reason a good % of us call it a day. I have secondary cataracts on my one operated eye so looking at a glaring mainly white screen is like a knife stuck in my optic nerve. These damn forms are impervious to being switched into the "Dark Reader" mode. They stay white with tiny, unreadable black print. And that's just the beginning.

2. Then there is the software complexity increase. The main tool of my appraisal business is a 2011-version of a "Magical" Excel form created by WSB and updated - until 2011 - by WFB. It does everything I need to do my job (to pick, compare and select comps by any criteria I want, to do the market and the 1004_MC analysis, to do time adjustments, to do match pair comparison and extract adjustment $$$ amounts, etc.,etc).

Now I cannot tell you how much I dislike, HATE even, the "hand-held mobile device tech revolution". [First, it destroyed the utility of the Internet. Now, aspects of it are literally destroying civilization (read: the "anti-social media" - but that's a different topic).]

So my estimate of an immediate retirement of 20% of our number on the day the "1004 Regime" ends, though admittedly a guess, is a good one. Might even be low.

 

[djd09]

When I used the GP form instead of the UAD form, it was refreshing and wonderful not having to deal with UAD inputting those 0s and such.
UAD is a waste of our time in working on appraisals (same as ANSI). Reminiscing the good old days with less requirements in our reports.
The new UAD form will be even worse.

aren't the GP forms wonderful...and no data stealing

 

[Bobby Bucks]

I remember when so many appraisers said they were never going to use the 1004 UAD...

I can still hear the screaming when that happened, as I recall the biggest concern was the increase in liability that some predicted, many argued it was a step closer to home inspections. I hated it because it ruined my clone/duplication system, I'm all but certain the new system wants to eliminate that.

Not relevant to this change, Tim.

Different time. Different average Appraiser age-profile. Different number of total appraisers. Different level of complexity involved in the change (by orders of magnitude).

So you have to keep working into the "UAD 3.6 Abomination" era Tim? Then good luck to you - and I mean that most sincerely. But I'm out the day the "1004 Regime" is retired. And I won't be alone. Why? Let me "quantify" the reasons:

1. Additional eye strain alone will be the main reason a good % of us call it a day. I have secondary cataracts on my one operated eye so looking at a glaring mainly white screen is like a knife stuck in my optic nerve. These damn forms are impervious to being switched into the "Dark Reader" mode. They stay white with tiny, unreadable black print. And that's just the beginning.

2. Then there is the software complexity increase. The main tool of my appraisal business is a 2011-version of a "Magical" Excel form created by WSB and updated - until 2011 - by WFB. It does everything I need to do my job (to pick, compare and select comps by any criteria I want, to do the market and the 1004_MC analysis, to do time adjustments, to do match pair comparison and extract adjustment $$$ amounts, etc.,etc).

Now I cannot tell you how much I dislike, HATE even, the "hand-held mobile device tech revolution". [First, it destroyed the utility of the Internet. Now, aspects of it are literally destroying civilization (read: the "anti-social media" - but that's a different topic).]

So my estimate of an immediate retirement of 20% of our number on the day the "1004 Regime" ends, though admittedly a guess, is a good one. Might even be low.

Good points about the vision Alsie, I'm in the same category concerning cataracts and eye strain. It's one more reason I'm in a wait and see mode until there is a working version of the UAD monster, if there is one that is voice to text friendly and is reliable and efficient, it may change my mind. I feel sorry for the appraiser volunteers who are the lab rabbits for the clusterfukk when they begin shoving widgets into the Fannie/Freddie funnel. It may be months before a sausage is produced, but it will still be excrement IMO.

 

[Tim Hicks (Texas)]

Not relevant to this change, Tim.

Different time. Different average Appraiser age-profile. Different number of total appraisers. Different level of complexity involved in the change (by orders of magnitude).

You must not have been on the forum in 2004-2005. It was total anarchy over the 1004 UAD forms. Before that, it was the AI-ready forms. I will never forget going to a Fannie Mae REO appraisers meeting and hearing all the appraisers talking about they were not going to do that AI-ready crap and when the meeting was over they were all saying "well, it is a business decision" as they signed on the dotted line.

 

[djd09]

they should of objected to uad...they are stealing your data and using it against you