Is oakland really this bad, do the politicians care.

[gregb]

George is right....
That's why DOJ thought it was important to arrest/try/place Jan 6 rioters/insurrectionist/tourist in jail....

What about "white" collar crime?

 

[ucbruin]

Too rich to jail....

I'd be happy to be 1/2 that rich....

 

[Surf Cat]

The rest of them are institutionalized until they don't need to be if that ever occurs.

Regan got rid of those facilities. Should we build new mental institutions to put them in?

 

[Mark K]

Nobody but a clueless progressive would put up with behavior like that. George is right. Jail time at the old truck farm would do a world of good. The rest of them are institutionalized until they don't need to be if that ever occurs.

Absolutely correct. But...until the majority of the citizens and the politicians find the political will to do it, the problem will continue unabated. I don't see that occurring for many years.

Unfortunately, big cities everywhere tend to attract the cohort of the demographics that want unlimited, cradle-to-grave assistance/welfare so, like Detroit a few years ago, the cities will hit bottom, businesses will flee, and the remaining population will milk the welfare system dry. Once the host dies, the parasites will move on. Only then will things start to improve.

This is not rocket science. Basic econ says that you subsidize what you want more of. These cities apparently want more of the problems that they're causing because they keep subsidizing (throwing money at) the problem. Its like having a discussion with a stray cat to the effect of..."Here kitty, kitty. I'll feed you this one time if you promise to go away."

 

[TC]

Regan got rid of those facilities. Should we build new mental institutions to put them in?

Yes

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Jail time at the old truck farm would do a world of good. The rest of them are institutionalized until they don't need to be

Reminds me of my dad's buddy who was a secretary for the Tucker Farm in Arkansas. Few people remember that Tucker was run by trustees and only 5 free people were employed. He told once a fellow refused to plow behind a team of mules. So, the trustees handcuffed him between the hames of the mules and he walked while dodging their hoofs for 12 hours. He found out that he could actually run the team the next day.

 

[Surf Cat]

Yes

Okay..... next question. Should we build homeless encampments or, wellness centers if you will, staffed with counselors, employment guidance, to help and prepare these people to return back to society?

OR.... do you round them up, state they're breaking the law, and have them fill potholes on streets and pick up trash along the freeways.... like a chain gang?

 

[Fernando]

It could be a scene from Mad Max: on one side of the street, a man lies sprawled on a heap of trash and a row of stolen cars are stripped for parts in front of a straggle of shabby tents. But this is no horror movie: it is modern-day Oakland, San Francisco’s smaller, shabbier neighbor and a place that has become synonymous with mass looting, rampant crime and sprawling homeless encampments that cover entire city blocks. Surveying the devastation, a resident who asked not to be named told DailyMail.com: ‘This place… It makes San Francisco look like paradise.’ The encampment, sprawled along the side of the 880 freeway across from the city’s famous Embarcadero , is one of 170 such homeless camps blighting Oakland. But despite their efforts, crime has continued to shoot up with burglaries up 23 percent compared to last year and motor vehicle thefts up by a whopping 44 percent. Meanwhile, the homeless population now stands at a record 5,490 – double what it was 10 years ago – with 67 percent of the unhoused living in camps on the street. Earlier this moonth, a 76 gas station run by Yemeni immigrant Sam Mardaie on the city’s East Side was ransacked by a mob of between 80 and 100 people. Mardaie later described the situation as ‘unbelievable’ and said he had been underwhelmed with the police response.
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I heard about the gas station store looting. Didn't realize there were 80-100 looters. From the video, it appear less.
When the store guy called the police, the police said to file a police report.
When news came out and police saw the video, they said they didn't realize it was that serious. The store owner said $100,000 in losses occurred and will hire two workers (not sure if that will help) and close earlier.

A nearby small plaza near the airport has many stores closed due to its crime. In & Out Burger left and other business continue leaving.
Home Depot near there had problems with crime there and not sure if its still there.

Oakland has always been the underperforming city next to San Francisco. Earlier this year Oakland airport was changed to San Francisco Bay-Oakland airport. SF objected to the confusion but Oakland had its way in name change.

Over the weekend, a rising young rapper was shot (appears targeted). She was in East Oakland to help grand opening of a beauty store. Senseless killing which is becoming more common.

During the Juneteen night celebration, there was a mass shooting of about 15 people.
Following week, the mayor's office was raided by the FBI and charges still awaiting.

Oakland has lost its professional basketball, football, and soon baseball team. Once a bright city, its future needs lot of help.

 

[Fernando]

The key to managing for grafitti is to paint it over as soon as it pops up, not leaving it up unmolested. The key to managing street prostitution is to hassle the hookers and johns on sight. The key to keeping highway speeds is to ramp up enforcement; seeing other people getting stopped/cited every few miles has a dramatic effect on slowing the prevailing flow of traffic.

San Francisco and other cities fine the property owner in not covering up the graffiti yet slow in tackling its graffitti on public properties.
Why not have harsher penalties for graffitti criminals.
I had one graffitti guy caught and his sentence was light.

 

[Surf Cat]

San Francisco and other cities fine the property owner in not covering up the graffiti yet slow in tackling its graffitti on public properties.
Why not have harsher penalties for graffitti criminals.
I had one graffitti guy caught and his sentence was light.

The taggers don't have any money.... well, except for paint cans. But the property owners do. Go for the money...