Just curious about trainees

[Greenback]

...Well at one time it was and it could be again, BUT it is going to be up to you new "younguns" to get it back.

Many of us will offer suggestions & help but what ever happens from here on out is going to affect you; not those like myself that can easily exit from this business. So lets hear from the younguns.

Trainees/Trainers that have the Ba Back Bone with less than 5 years license, tell us your stories.

Karl,

I'm still waiting for a logical explanation. Mr. Shields had a cool post; however, he just doesn't feel like having a trainee it appears, nothing wrong with that. I respect him for that; and he was logical. But, I didn't see a solid reason why Trainees are a burden or a thing of the past. Great post, though.

I think all the liars through-out the past and present are the problem. People can take away everything I have, but they can't touch what I've learned. I earned that, it's mine.

Doom and gloom.., lol. Yeah, doom and gloom (and that's quoted by the way).

When the public gets the real deal, they will realise a meaning. Whether it's from a trainee or certified, they know when something is fishy or not fishy. An accountaility: the public of America is the most idealistic in the world. Once a meaning is understood and equality exists, specialization may come about through ideal uses from the public. other cycles could possibly spin off, too; evolve.

Well, if some certifieds are lost, then their trainees are left out, too. I think some risks for the good need to be taken. It's not like the same ol thing has been working. Risk is typical. I think the better question may be, "what will happen to some certifieds, and then some trainees."

Sincerely,

 

[RustNeverSleeps]

I'm just a curious Real Estate Appraiser Trainee. Please, expand on this; since I'm no longer viable and, only a burden, in your eyes.

I've noticed several have similar convictions, as yours.

May I ask that you and several others (with similar conviction) concur, with logical explanation, as to how the Real Estate Apraiser Trainee(s) are a thing of the past; due to Trainees being a burden on the profession?

Come on Green, surely you know that none of the licensed appraisers were ever trainees. They were all born with a DISTO in their mouth :laugh:

 

[Karl]

Since Trainees seem to be getting bashed by many that PROBABLLY had trainees during the "BOOM" (please see statics posted in various threads about the increase in Appraisers in past 5 years) (I knew I did not have the patience or the willpower to train Advise YES train NO), But I can say I have seen some extremly good recent produced Appraisers BUT sadly I have seen more BAD recent & OLD Appraisers cause of the GREED for money. I'd think that trainee bashing could be potentially dangerous, as we watch this market DECLINE!! I'd think with this changing market Trainees & recently licensed MAY want to tell their stories to those that are investigating the Mortgage crisis. (I Like reading stories) & I'm betting many of those "TRAINERS" had more than 10 years experience & some supposedly impressive intials after the name.

Trainees!! look back at old threads on here see how you were SUPPOSE to adjust to get to the contract price. See how many had Trainees in various parts of a State. Lady use to vacation in HA. & send in Appraisals while on vacation. Amazing how the stories & how those that must have had a "Come to Jesus Meeting have changed" Best one I think you'll enjoy; check out & see those that BASHED the now infomous PAM just 5 short years ago. That is probably the best evidence that you can't believe everything you read on hear.

Trainees & especially newly licensed I advise that you go & ask those that are now listening. "I may NOT have been trained properly, what can I do to help"??

Here an assignment for you, find out how many REALLY want to see some REAL change take place in the Appraisal Industry!!

 

[Tudor]

If the newly licensed and current trainees really want to make this profession what it is supposed to be and earn respect of the law abiding ethical appraisers, then they will turn in those Supervisors that committed fraud.

 

[Karl]

If the newly licensed and current trainees really want to make this profession what it is supposed to be and earn respect of the law abiding ethical appraisers, then they will turn in those Supervisors that committed fraud.

Now there it is plain & simple. THANK YOU!! & yes folks there are those that want to hear your stories. Want an address contact me Karl Keeler I am in the state Appraisal board directory under Pinal County.

Put up or shut up. it's that simple!

 

[Greenback]

Since Trainees seem to be getting bashed by many that PROBABLLY had trainees during the "BOOM" (please see stats, trends, patterns, behavior; posted in various threads about the increase in Appraisers in past 5 +/- years). I knew I did not have the patience or the willpower to train; but, advise, YES - train, NO; however, I can say I've seen some extremly good, recently produced, Appraisers. BUT, sadly I've seen more BAD (recent) and OLD Appraisers that may value GREED for the exchange of money. I'd think that trainee bashing could be potentially dangerous (!); as we watch this market evolve!! I'd think with this changing market, Trainees and recently licensed Appraisers, MAY, want to tell "their" stories to those that are investigating the Mortgage crisis. (I Like reading stories; smiling). Oh, and I'm betting many of those "TRAINERS" had more than 10 (ten) years experience, some supposedly had/have impressive intials after their name.

Trainees!! - look back at old threads on here, amazing how the stories provide a pattern, in which some actually had a "Come to Jesus Meeting (...and changed)". Check out those that BASHED the now infomous Mizz PAM all those years; may be the best evidence from which anyone can see what and who to believe.

"I may NOT have been trained properly, what can I do to help???". ----->

------> Trainees and, especially newly licensed, I advise that you go and ask those individuals that want to listen, right now.

I reconstructed your post, Mr. Karl. I was bored, hope you don't mind? If so, I'll edit it. I know I left out your last sentence; are Trainee "credit" recommendations involved? I need to earn credits I know how to research this forum and, many other things.

Sincerely,
Benji

 

[Karl]

I reconstructed your post, Mr. Karl. I was bored, hope you don't mind? If so, I'll edit it. I know I left out your last sentence; are Trainee "credit" recommendations involved? I need to earn credits I know how to research this forum and, many other things.

Sincerely,
Benji

I am trying to get AZ to issue credits for those that attend board meetings (as observers) so that could be a start; Credit on here is that when you find useful information & you do everthing you possiblly can to Appraising properlly then we say Good Boy/Girl. Guess that's all the credit you'll ever get from the forum. BUT best of all even though you'll probablly be broke, cause very few will use honest appraisers; You'll feel good!! Hungry but good!!

You bring back those threads from 5+/- years ago about how to HIT the contract Price, & how great it was to have trainees, & especially those that said PAM was basiclly a WACKO!! I'll see what I can find for you in my Atta Boy File. Now rember IF you bring those items up from the PAST!! there MAY be some on here that aren't going to like you. BUT!! That will be good trsining cause IF yiou do Appraising properlly you'll have so many that won't like you, You'll find those on the forum won't even matter.

 

[Greenback]

Now remember, IF, you bring those items up from the PAST(!); there MAY be some on here that will not like you.

I'm not worried about that, I may be able to provide an analysis, too.

I'm working on something, though; I have credits to earn and, either way, I'm gonna be broke.

Sincerely,
Benji

 

[Kali the Boston Terrier]

I personally like trainees, I would have no problem taking another on...provided they were the right fit. I think what gets lost in this debate...is proper hiring techniques. If you are a poor manager you will hire poor employees. If you are an ego maniac, you will not hire people smarter, better looking than you.

I have picked some stellar people, I have picked some duds. In each hiring I learned something... the bad ones 1) Never hire family or friends 2) If there are large gaps of time on their resume, don't hire them 3) Only hire college grads (I cannot train them on commercial if they never are going to get their CG and will ikely not get there CR either) 4) Let the trainees foot their own freight for software, hardware, classes, licensing 5) Someone with poor writing skills at the beginning will never have good writing skills 6) If they do not make conversation, I am not going to like being couped up in a car with them 7) They must have excellent computer skills

ok lessons from good hires...
1) Taking chances on people and treating them with respect will breed loyalty that will pay for years to come 2) MENSA people tend to be really smart, but they have a tough time getting work out the door 3) Even the smartest people make mistakes, try not to expect perfection 4) Really interview people, call their references

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

then they will turn in those Supervisors that committed fraud.

which sinks their boat too, unless they figure it out on the very first appraisal....

Only hire college grads (I cannot train them on commercial if they never are going to get their CG and will ikely not get there CR either) 4) Let the trainees foot their own freight for software, hardware, classes, licensing 5) Someone with poor writing skills at the beginning will never have good writing skills 6) If they do not make conversation, I am not going to like being couped up in a car with them 7) They must have excellent computer skills

Heck, those skills will get you a REAL job