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Liability Insurance?

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Charlie

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Certified Residential Appraiser
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Do you carry general commercial liability insurance in addition to E&O? Why or why not? I have had one company that requires me to carry a 1 million general liability policy. But they have not sent me any work and I am re-considering the renewal of the policy (about $18 per month).
 
That's a good price for GL. Most companies I represent have minimum premiums of $250 to $500 a year.

I would keep it going. Low cost for peace of mind.
 
I had a supplemental policy with my auto in prior existance. I see no reason to have it. Are you going to crash your car into the house as you appraise it? Knock over a Ming Vase while on inspection? .... thats the only use of the Gen Liab. and your rate is cheap, so if you are the clumsy type might be useful. I personally don't carry it.
 
I had a supplemental policy with my auto in prior existance. I see no reason to have it. Are you going to crash your car into the house as you appraise it? Knock over a Ming Vase while on inspection? .... thats the only use of the Gen Liab. and your rate is cheap, so if you are the clumsy type might be useful. I personally don't carry it.

Thanks for both of the responses. I agree that the usefulness of this type of policy is limited for appraisers. I would rate myself as having average level clumsiness.

The only reason I took the policy in the first place was that a certain client required it. The insurance rep has been trying to convince me to keep the policy. I questioned her on specific cases that it would benefit me and she came up with a scenario where I accidently tripped a homeowner inside of the home and he was injured. I could envision a scenario where if I got blamed (if it was truly my fault or not) for damage to a vacant REO that the policy could provide some benefit (water being left on and causing damage, etc...). I am not sure that this policy would provide me with any extra peace of mind. If peace of mind is what I am investing in then the money would probably be better spent on identity theft insurance as common as that is becoming.
 
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Several years ago my partner and I developed an appraiser liability seminar. During the course of the research, I came across this story.

Stephanie, an appraiser in northern Michigan, was asked to appraise a vacant dwelling for an FHA loan. As most of us are aware, one of the requirements for this type of appraisal is that the appraiser activates the furnace and confirms that it produces and circulates hot air. When Stephanie turned on the furnace, a minor explosion occurred and a fire erupted. Stephanie had the presence of mind to call 911 and turn off the valve on the propane tank, but by the time the local volunteer fire department arrived, the house was a total loss.

So what happened? Did Stephanie receive a citation or an award for quick thinking? Hardly. The homeowner’s insurance carrier sued Stephanie as “proximate cause” of the fire.

Her E&O carrier said it was not a "professional act" and left her to twist in the wind. Fortunately, her general liability carrier stepped up to the plate and the homeowner's insurance company backed off.

It's debatable whether the E&O carrier should have acknowledged it as a professional act. Another E&O company later told me they would have. But the point is that there are things over which appraisers are sued that are not covered by E&O. You may not be clumsy, but someone else may break the Ming vase and blame you. Suppose you let yourself in via the MLS keybox and after you leave, the latchkey kid and his buddies break the vase before ma and pa get home from work.

Or your trainee is involved in an accident on the way to or from an inspection. Guess what?

Or you are accused of stealing something during an inspection. Or the latch on the screen door to the lanai doesn't catch behind you and a neighborhood kid comes over and drowns in the pool. Or whatever.

One important thing I learned from Stephanie's experience is that some general liability policies are limited on on-premises acts and some cover off-premises acts as well. If you have a general liability policy, it's not of much use unless it covers off-premises.
 
I avoid litigation by having no net worth.
 
Off-Premises coverage

Rich- thank you for taking the time to post these real world scenarios. I appeciate it.

I looked up my policy after reading your post. It does appear to cover off premises acts, as long as they are within the defined territory (which appears to be the whole US).
 
You'd think this kind of coverage would be a nice little add on for your EnO carrier. Since the line between what's covered and not covered under EnO would so often be blurred it makes sense to just write a little rider to cover everything and charge a few more bucks.

Is it not that case that the EnO carriers offer this?
 
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